Old steels denied fills due to store "policy"

[Rollin Bonz]

I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains.

You're that smart?

 

[Rollin Bonz]

You aren't doing yourself any favours with this crusade on behalf of a shop not your own that utterly failed customer service 101. You are managing to fail yourself, and it isn't even your issue.

I know one shop I will never visit, one charter I will never book.

Can you guess who?

Fully Tek

Did anyone else click the link and scroll down to the pic of the fill station?

Bank tanks don't look so great... Just sayin'

 

[Wookie]

You're that smart?

Ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?...Morons

(Thanks for the slow pitch)

 

[The Chairman]

Bank tanks don't look so great... Just sayin'

They're fine. Let's not be petty.

 

[gcarter]

Did anyone else click the link and scroll down to the pic of the fill station?

Bank tanks don't look so great... Just sayin'

Nothing wrong with those tanks.

The reason I would never use this guy is his poor customer service attitude and the way he doubles down on it. That's all.

 

[tmassey]

Did anyone else click the link and scroll down to the pic of the fill station?

I did not, and I won't contribute even a click to go see. But I've been thinking about this.

If people are so worried about the safety of fill stations, why not improve the safety of FILL STATIONS, instead of destroying perfectly fine tanks? You want to be a nervous nellie about tanks? After all, even a *BRAND* *NEW* tank could be treated poorly before it's very first fill, right?!? How do we protect the children then? How about putting a little bit of effort into protecting the station?

If you think these tanks are silent grenades waiting to go off, why do you have an operator as a "human shield" in the first place? You *do* know that the operator does not have to touch -- or be anywhere near -- the tank at any time during the gas-filling part of the operation, right? Hook up the tank, insert tank into blast shield / go behind the blast shield, open the fill valve, fill away.

But no: *your* irrational fear should be used to control the actions of EVERYBODY ELSE, and destroy tens of millions of dollars of perfectly-functional equipment (hundreds of thousands of tanks are created each year, so hundreds of thousands of tanks would need to be destroyed each year).

Shouldn't that always be the first course of action? What can I do *myself* to protect myself from real or perceived danger? Not what do I have to make *others* do... Especially when your "solution" doesn't address the problem in the first place: it only addresses the symptom.

But whatever. Reason #9421 that I really like my compressor.

Edited to add: The "you" in this post is the proverbial you. NOT *anyone* specifically: I'm not attacking the guy we've been arguing with, etc. I'm highlighting the fact that there is a way for *anyone* to protect themselves here.

 

[Wookie]

I did not, and I won't contribute even a click to go see. But I've been thinking about this.

If people are so worried about the safety of fill stations, why not improve the safety of FILL STATIONS, instead of destroying perfectly fine tanks? You want to be a nervous nellie about tanks? After all, even a *BRAND* *NEW* tank could be treated poorly before it's very first fill, right?!? How do we protext the children then? How about putting a little bit of effort into protecting the station?

If you think these tanks are silent grenades waiting to go off, why do you have an operator as a "human shield" in the first place? You *do* know that the operator does not have to touch the tank at any time during the gas-filling operation, right? Hook up the tank, insert tank into blast shield / go behind the blast shield, open the fill valve, fill away.

But no: *your* irrational fear should be used to control the actions of EVERYBODY ELSE, and destroy tens of millions of dollars of perfectly-functional equipment (hundreds of thousands of tanks are created each year, so hundreds of thousands of tanks would need to be destroyed each year).

Shouldn't that always be the first course of action? What can I do *myself* to protect myself from real or perceived danger? Not what do I have to make *others* do... Especially when your "solution" doesn't address the problem in the first place: it only addresses the symptom.

But whatever. Reason #9421 that I really like my compressor.

In the same vein, lots of fill stations have compressors and bank bottles, but how any have containment fill stations? They are pretty reasonable on EBay and the problem is solved. Period. If there is a boom, no one will notice until after.

 

[Ana]

A snorkel. Geez. First it's old rusted tanks now you use a snorkel. How do you expect to survive?!?!

Force-e just thinks they have to many potential victims, er I mean customers down here.

There's times I look at those rusty old tanks and decide to go freediving instead of risking my life, for those times I need the snorkel.

Then there's also times when I'm not sure exactly what I want so I mix long fins with a tank... My odds of surviving are obviously low.

 

[Rollin Bonz]

They're fine. Let's not be petty.

I agree, but I wonder how old they are

 

[tmassey]

In the same vein, lots of fill stations have compressors and bank bottles, but how any have containment fill stations? They are pretty reasonable on EBay and the problem is solved. Period. If there is a boom, no one will notice until after.

That was my *exact* point. And I'll answer your question:

1) Space for me is at a premium. Don't want to waste (yes, *WASTE*) the space.

2) There is ZERO point in reducing the risk of a <50 in >1 MILLION event. It's the same reason I don't walk around with a lightning arrestor. Just like lightning strikes, the sensible things that are already done (like not waving a golf club around in a field in a lightning storm) are already so effective that you can ignore this as a problem.

But if I *were* the type to worry about such things, you can *BET* that I'd have one. You can find surplus fill stations on things like govdeals.com for less than $1000. But rebarred concrete is nearly as effective and a lot cheaper and easier. A little bit of research on the Internet will find people with actually dangerous explosive habits (fireworks, rocketry, etc.) that have put a lot of thought and effort into this.

This is an easily solved problem. (Actually, it's already solved, but even if you're worried, it's easy to over-solve it!)