Offshore drilling bill passes house - CONTACT YOUR SENATORS!

[ChillyWaters]

here's an interesting statistic:

in 2004 (expect things to have grown since then) the top oil user in the world
was the US.

it used up more oil than the next five users combined: China, Japan, Germany,
Russian, and India, and still had room for half of what the next country (Canada) used.

If there's any truth to that... HOLY CRAP!

- ChillyWaters

 

[MEL-DC Diver]

Yes.

Besides, their information comes from credible sources (follow the links, Neo).

Your answer says it all. Choose your conspiracy from the menu items listed...

 

[bruehlt]

Your answer says it all. Choose your conspiracy from the menu items listed...

Have you read the article before shooting accusations?

 

[AXL72]

*Rolls Eyes*

 

[H2Andy]

IThe drilling is to preserve your boat diving habit, sheez. So unappreciative. GAWD. As if oil grew on trees or something.:freak:

that would be true if they gave me the oil for free.

the drilling is for oil companies to get more oil to sell to me and make a nice profit.

 

[AlaskaDiver]

I have worked for big oil, only the execs get the profits. Employees are just a head count to them. I can't help but noticing that our economy here booms huge when big oil begins production. Big profits for big ooil mean that my PFD check can grow larger over the next 5 years. I need a fatter permanent fund dividend check so I can buy more guns, fill my SUV, and spend the weekend consuming fuel in Resurrection Bay in a big hulking boat.

 

[scubafool]

that would be true if they gave me the oil for free.

the drilling is for oil companies to get more oil to sell to me and make a nice profit.

That logic is rather flawed.

When I drill a hole in a board, it is so I can put a piece of pipe through it and make money for doing so. However, the end result is that you have water to flush your toilet or take a shower. But using your logic the only way that you get any benefit out of it is if I do it for free?

 

[dherbman]

i wish we were pouring money into finding an alternative to drilling anywhere

Nice thought, but that will never happen as long as there is big money to be made from pumping oil. Abandoning existing oil fields and terminating the search for others makes absolutely no financial sense. The pumping will continue until the last barrel is gone.

Having witnessed first hand what the environmental movement is capable of, I am very leary of their expressed motives and intent. I question any information they put forth because they have an agenda that is every bit as important to them as is money to the oil companies. The battle they wage is no longer as much for the environment, it is against oil.

They do well to stir public emotion with accusation and demands, but fall short on alternatives and solutions. They have managed to all but eliminate timber harvests in Oregon. The result has been most apparent in the timber communities where meth has become scourge and unemployment is widespread. Broader consequences impact the entire state: ONC timber funds have all but dried up, resulting in funding shortfalls for public schools, police and county government.

Why would these people harm their communities to blindly further their agendas? Well, they don't. No, they mainly live in the larger cities, far from the reality of their influence.

Now that logging has been all but eliminated, they are focused on oil. They have no viable alternative to put forth, only demands. In the end, the last barrel will be pumped and capitalism will spawn an alternative.

 

[jbichsel]

Ahhh... I see your problem now. If Bob in China can have an SUV, it is your god (er, American) given right to do so as well? We should start to be proactive, not reactive (do you know what that means?). If your country started to reduce emissions, others may soon follow -- probably through political pressure and technology. Obviously there are many other countries that do more harm than the U.S. (countries such as India and Iran come to mind), but does that mean you shouldn't, as a country, try to improve things?

No one I have seen is saying that we shouldn'y try to improve things. What we are saying is that we don't want to live in teepees, ride an ox to work and shut down everything we currently have just to not use oil.

Why should you have the "right" to an SUV?

It's a thing we call "freedom of choice". Very popular in countries that are not socialist but "representative republics".

Why should you have the right to bear-arms?

Becasue our Founding Fathers knew the hazards of a government gaining too much power over the people. They had the foresight to create what we call The Second Amendment of The Bill of Rights. Not the Bill of Generally Ok Suggestions.

Why do smokers think they have the right to smoker where-ever, whenever they want?

As an ex-smoker, I won't argue this one.

Perhaps should start to think about the big-picture and your effect on your surrounding, not just about your apparent "rights."

When it is something granted by God or in our Bill of Rights, what is best for my kids and country, I think of those first. I think of what Canadians or any other country thinks.......never.

Luckily society (at least here) is starting to change about their views on the environment and health. I'm amazed at how healthy and conscious my city is (in general), and I find it very encouraging. The number of active people, the small number of smokers, the number of smaller cars, etc. All-in-all, I'm proud.

- ChillyWaters

I too am glad that we are starting to think more about our environment. We are part of a connected global life cycle. However, I'm more concerned with stopping the killing of over 100,000,000 sharks each year than whether or not some fruit fly will be displaced by construction of a hiway.

 

[ChillyWaters]

I think of what Canadians or any other country thinks.......never.

Perhaps that's all part of the problem. Image can go a long way. Focusing on improving one's position at the expense of anyone else... scary...

- ChillyWaters