I understand that the 1st stages have different seats.......I was asking about the 2nd stages.
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My point in all this was not to harp on about the whole clone thing......not that there's anything wrong in basing a design on one of the best regs of the last couple of decades.....but to point out the similarities between the HOG and Epic.
If someone wants yoke they are not taking a performance hit by going Edge.
If someone wants yoke they are not taking a performance hit by going Edge.
Second stages are not the same. The Edge and HOG reg second stage cases have undergone a number of redesigns to maximize performance and having just looked at the apeks schematics on frogkick I can say they are not the same in a number of ways. Chris actually posted the second stage schematics in another thread. http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/re...26-g250-graphite-vs-hog-adjustable-2nd-3.html
Blue Sparkle
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Okay, I'm officially confused. I thought that in another thread (will have to dig it up, but it was specifically about "Hog with yoke?"*), cerich said that they were going to come out with a way to make a HOG regulator "natively" yoke. I thought that was great, and mentioned it in another thread (I think that was earlier in this one, actually).
Then I thought cerich corrected me in that first thread and said that no, it was not going to be "native" yoke, but rather a spin-on adapter being added to the line. I was even more confused after that because you and others had already offered a spin-on adapter over Thanksgiving, so why was that new?
Color me confused!
Blue Sparkle
PS: I tuned in to the whole discussion because I originally wanted to buy HOG regs but didn't because --- given that I was planning to do mostly Keys diving with rental tanks --- I wanted a "native" yoke reg.
PPS: I'll see if I can find a link to that thread and add it here.
*Here is the other thread, see post #25 (with some lead-in prior to that post summarized in post #20)
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/edge-gear/356963-yoke-hog-first-stage.html
Yes and those kits will be a spin on adapter.
Blue Sparkle
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I think I got confused because I ascribed a different meaning to "convert," and was thinking of it as being internal, vs. "adapt" being external. Also, since there are already many spin-on adapters available to adapt DIN to yoke (albeit I guess they are not HOG brand), I figured that would not be "new."
I think I understand now that they will be spin-on adapters, but will either be HOG branded or will at least be packaged with the regs right from HOG, which is new.
Thank you for clarifying,
Blue Sparkle
I think I understand now that they will be spin-on adapters, but will either be HOG branded or will at least be packaged with the regs right from HOG, which is new.
Thank you for clarifying,
Blue Sparkle
halocline
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So they're not offering a yoke version? Just including a spin on adapter with the DIN regs?
Blue Sparkle
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halocline: I got confused on that too (there is more discussion in the thread I linked to in post #55 of this thread). But it seems that now both cerich ("Mr. HOG") and Jim have confirmed that the new HOG item is a spin-on adapter. I guess my confusion was due to a variety of terminology or my misinterpretation.
halocline
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You're not confusing converting regs to yoke with using a spin on adapter, are you Jim?
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