No truer words have ever been typed!

[Noob@40]

Thanks Teamcasa
Love the thread.
Sign me up for the club and order me a Tshirt in extra large.
I like it much better in here than in that monster of a post I created over there.
(Padi Bashers)

P.S.
Don't tell them I'm here. They'll come get me.

 

[Guba]

Mot2vation
"If a person can't think an issue through, formulate an arguement, defend it with reason, logic and wit - they should just go back to go back to golf or chess or radio club or some other mindless activity."

Well, that you're opinion.
(Just so there was no mistake...I say that tongue-in-cheek, so laugh!)

 

[Mo2vation]

Passion may be great, but I wouldnt jump off a cliff just because the guy in front of me was passionate about doing it.

I never said a word about engaging in risk or blindly following a person - but I see you working.

My context was simply conversation and interaction. The boring and non-thinkers need to be banished and/avoided. I'm so done with the middle-roaders. Have a take, pick a side, defend an issue. That's what I'm saying.

In the world's bowl that is filling with more vanilla everyday, gimmie some flavah and some sprinkles, man.

Opinions and opinionated people aren't only good, they're vital.

---
Ken

 

[Gil57usa]

If I knock the boots off my double aluminum 80s, where will I put the sheet lead I put under them to make them neutral?

 

[PerroneFord]

Man in the Arena

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt
"Citizenship in a Republic,"
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

 

[Teamcasa]

Dave, so well said. Next time we're on the Sundiver I'll buy you a beverage.

Thanks Mike, I'm looking forward to it!

Dave

 

[Teamcasa]

...In the world's bowl that is filling with more vanilla everyday, gimmie some flavah and some sprinkles, man.

Opinions and opinionated people aren't only good, they're vital.

Ken

True enough Ken. The world does need opinionated people, they make the best salespeople.

I'm as up for a good debate as the next guy, I'm just going to avoid the "my stuff is better than yours” or “If you don’t use this, you will die” arguments. After all, for me it’s a simple leisure time activity I get to enjoy with my lovely bride. It’s not my profession.

Dave

 

[diver 85]

Opinions are important. Opinions are vital. The conclusions one puts forth may not always be correct or supported with facts, and opinions are often mistaken for strong assertuions, or worse: numbed down with "I believe...." or "I think...." or "I feel...."

Be declarative, you ninny. Own it.

I'd rather have a conversation with an opinionated person any day than some waffle-ing, flip flopping, no-take, no opinion, soft, limp, squishy turd.

If a person can't think an issue through, formulate an arguement, defend it with reason, logic and wit - they should just go back to go back to golf or chess or radio club or some other mindless activity.

Even if I don't agree with your conclusions, my mind can be changed.


Hey motination

If you're right, and you haven't sold me, its not my fault that I think you're wrong. Its yours.

Take another swing at it. But don't wilt, don't come in soft, and don't make it personal. Sell it, defend it, make me think you've put some thought into your take. Even if I think you're all wet, if you've thought it through I'll respect you.

I love strongly opinionated people. Even the half-wits. Passion is much more rare than intellegence. I'll take passion everytime, as when a passionate person hits a home run, they share the lovin. Passion ignites. Intellect alone is a snoozer.

---
Ken

Ken, you ever play golf(talking about getting a 6 or below hdc. going)???.....rotflmao, may I answer that Q??.........

 

[under water]

.. If you're right, and you haven't sold me, its not my fault that I think you're wrong. Its yours.
..
I love strongly opinionated people. Even the half-wits. Passion is much more rare than intellegence. I'll take passion everytime, as when a passionate person hits a home run, they share the lovin. Passion ignites. Intellect alone is a snoozer.

---
Ken

Sorry Ken,
I have to disagree with your Point of View. The world has been led too often (and still is) with "passionate" fools who dismiss logic.
If I take your argument to it's extreme, and I think you are encouraging me to do just that, then I would assume that you favor tyrants and terrorists because they are strongly opinionated.
Sorry.. just does not work for me! I'll listen to the soft-spoken, well thought out ideas & discussion over the passionate one every time.
There is lots of room for disagreement and there is no shortage of opinion. I don't choose my music based on how loud it is, but how good it is (in my opinion of course). I would say that "we can agree to disagree", but I think you would hate that

 

[Thalassamania]

Opinions are important. Opinions are vital. The conclusions one puts forth may not always be correct or supported with facts, and opinions are often mistaken for strong assertuions, or worse: numbed down with "I believe...." or "I think...." or "I feel...."

Be declarative, you ninny. Own it.

I'd rather have a conversation with an opinionated person any day than some waffle-ing, flip flopping, no-take, no opinion, soft, limp, squishy turd.

If a person can't think an issue through, formulate an arguement, defend it with reason, logic and wit - they should just go back to go back to golf or chess or radio club or some other mindless activity.

Even if I don't agree with your conclusions, my mind can be changed.

If you're right, and you haven't sold me, its not my fault that I think you're wrong. Its yours.

Take another swing at it. But don't wilt, don't come in soft, and don't make it personal. Sell it, defend it, make me think you've put some thought into your take. Even if I think you're all wet, if you've thought it through I'll respect you.

I love strongly opinionated people. Even the half-wits. Passion is much more rare than intellegence. I'll take passion everytime, as when a passionate person hits a home run, they share the lovin. Passion ignites. Intellect alone is a snoozer.

---
Ken

Damn, this guy makes sense.

Man in the Arena

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt
"Citizenship in a Republic,"
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

One of my favorites. I took my son down to the Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace a week ago and then took him to see the Theodore Roosevelt stuff at the American Museum and the Explorers Club (yeah, it was a real kick to be elected to membership in a club that TR was a member of).