Nitrox vs. advanced Nitrox

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StSomewhere:
How old is that abstract?
It was written in 1997.
The message, however, is timeless. Don't lose that in the details.
Rick
 
fearnosurf:
I'm doing the National Geographic Open Water because it seems to be the most robust of the Open Water Certifications.

Adding 2 dives doesn't change a course with missing basic skills into "the most robust of the Open Water Certifications."
 
No, but it goes more in depth with a few skills, on top of what my Instructor has taught us.

What basic skills are you refering that I will be missing by going PADI vs NAUI?
 
Some of the basic skills missing include an essential foundation in skin diving, doff & don, bailout and meaningful rescue skills. Missing from the course is an explanation of the panic cycle. This is off the top of my head with no handy reference, I know there are more I'm forgetting. All of these are necessary to produce safe divers, in my opinion.

Keep in mind, there are more than 2 agencies.
 
Walter:
Keep in mind, there are more than 2 agencies.

Yes I realize this. I narrowed my choice down to PADI & NAUI after visiting various scuba shops in the DFW area. I didn't make my choice based 100% on curriculum, I made it based on my interviews with several instructors at each institution (when available). Like I mentioned before, based on the shop & NAUI's curriculum, I was going to go there. But had some severe issues with the instructors.

In my PADI SCUBA class we did indead learn doff & don both at the surface and at depth. In combination with doff & don we learned to free our gear form any entanglements. We did not learn bailout (I'm assuming this is removing your SCUBA, and holding on to it while ascending?) We also learned several rescue techniques, both at surface and at depth, and various tow's.

Our Skin Diving was probably lacking, seeing as it is optional for the instructor. We did a lengthy swim, tread water & also a 3 quick breath, breath hold dive & the science behind it.
 
Aquanaut4ata:
A little more clarification for you: The nitrox course teaches you what you need to know for 2 mixes, which are 32%, and 36%. Advanced nitrox teaches you to use any mix between 21% & 50%. The value of the advanced nitrox is that it teaches you some more advanced principes, like figuring a Max operating depth for a given mix, or figuring a best mix for a given depth. It is correctly mentioned above that advanced nitrox is an "introductory tech course" only in the sense that it is generally a prerequisite to tech nitrox, trimix, extended range diving, etc. An advanced nitrox certification still imposes recreational depth limits.


Not to be too picky but any Nitrox diver has to analize each tank themselves and sign off on the exact mix. This includes calculation of the MOD. All Nitrox tanks will have a sticker on the tank with the MOD and the exact mix written in by the diver. Not all recreational Nitrox tanks are exactly 32% or 36% so a rec Nitrox diver must be able to do the calculation for MOD after personally checking the exact mix.
 
All Nitrox tanks will have a sticker on the tank with the MOD and the exact mix written in by the diver.

Not in the real world. While that is the correct proceedure, my experience is it's rarely followed.
 
The reason I ask is that I was Nitrox certified about 50 dives ago, although I dive Nitrox only half the time and I have gotten my Nitrox from the same DS and they are very strict about signing off and tank idetification.
 
I travel to dive, yes people almost always analyze their own tanks, and almost always write it in a log, but I've never seen anyone use stickers either, never mind what the book says. Typically the tank is under your control from the time you analyze it, often with your BC on it. I've occasionally been someplace where you analyze a tank and set it aside for later (like a night dive someplace unstaffed and they don't leave the analyzer out) - then maybe it's masking tape with name and mix, or a grease pencil.
 

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