Nitrox vs. advanced Nitrox

[Walter]

I don't teach nitrox from your agency.

Maybe you should. It sounds like yours leaves out most of the reasons to take the course in the first place.

 

[Aquanaut4ata]

Maybe you should. It sounds like yours leaves out most of the reasons to take the course in the first place.

Or maybe mine isn't that bad.
I will fill you in on what we do, so if you want to continue to take it apart, you at least don't have to do so blindly.
For the recreational diver, who wants nothing more out of it than to realize the benefits of Nitrox, we offer a basic 2 hour class that gives them the tools they need to accomplish that, using a 32/36 table or a computer. because of the small amount of info this also imposes limits.This course is also in no way a prerequisite to the other courses to follow.
The next level is also a basic (LSU), and is taught with theory, MOD's, BM's, and is 21-40%, with a 100' depth limit. Next is advanced (CSU). same as above with decompression theory, 21-50%, and 130' depth limit.
The idea here is that not all people want to take a full blown course, but want to realize the benefits, so they are provided with an alternative. Note should also be made that we teach from 2 different agencies, so we can offer the varieties that we do, and thus cater to the needs/wants of the customer.

 

[StSomewhere]

A little more clarification for you: The nitrox course teaches you what you need to know for 2 mixes, which are 32%, and 36%.

Really? What if the only thing available is banked 30%? Or if a dive was planned to a max depth of 120'?

 

[JWU42]

Really? What if the only thing available is banked 30%? Or if a dive was planned to a max depth of 120'?

I would take the banked EAN30 and stay closer to 100-110'. That said - I have never heard of much being banked but 32 or 36 - with 32 probably 10 times more popular.

 

[StSomewhere]

That said - I have never heard of much being banked but 32 or 36 - with 32 probably 10 times more popular.

I ran into this recently, due to the depth of a particular dive, the dive op only provided EAN30. Go figure...

 

[paolov]

at least my course teaches the student to understand the MOD, EAN or how it will affect the general homosapiens theoretically of a particular mix, whatever that mix maybe 18%, 21%, 30%, 32% 34%,50% even 100%

 

[Walter]

Or maybe mine isn't that bad..........we offer a basic 2 hour class that gives them the tools they need to accomplish that, using a 32/36 table or a computer. because of the small amount of info this also imposes limits.

Sounds pretty bad to me, a waste of 2 hours. I usually complete the classroom portion of my course in 2 hours as well, but I include MOD, best mix, 21 - 40%, equipment issues, theory. If you have the other option, why would you ever offer the class in which you don't teach nitrox?

 

[fearnosurf]

All bickering aside I have an actual question.

I am new to diving, in fact I'm getting my Cert this weekend. This is a lifelong dream of mine fulfilled!

I am going to take a Nitrox course next, so I am trying to figure out which I should take?
PADI's Nitrox $100
OR
TDI's advanced Nitrox combined with Deco procedures $400
Examines the use of EAN 21 through 100% (oxygen) for optimal mixes to a depth of 130fsw/40msw. Trains divers in the benefits, hazards and proper procedures for utilizing EAN 21 through 100% (oxygen) for dives not requiring staged decompression.

Examines the theory, methods and procedures of planned stage decompression diving. Trains divers how to plan and conduct a standard staged decompression dive not exceeding a maximum depth of 150fsw/45msw.

I am really interested in going into Tech diving, so should I go ahead and take this course instead?

 

[String]

Id say dont go adv nitrox/deco procedures at this stage - if your profile is correct you need to be doing lots more diving and getting comfortable with the skills and conditions you have currently. If you want to do a nitrox course try the TDI basic, do some more diving then do the advanced and at a later date deco procedures (most instructors will offer a discount for doing all those with them).

There are lots of specific skills required for advanced nitrox and again for deco procedures that a new diver probably doesnt have.

 

[Rick Murchison]

I am new to diving, in fact I'm getting my Cert this weekend.I am going to take a Nitrox course next, so I am trying to figure out which I should take?
PADI's Nitrox $100
OR
TDI's advanced Nitrox combined with Deco procedures $400

I recommend you take the following courses before attempting advanced Nitrox. Bear in mind that Advanced Nitrox has very little to do with Nitrox and a whole lot to do with diving skills... skills that typically take quite a bit of practice and experience to perform satisfactorily.
Nitrox
AOW
Rescue
Deep diving
Log 80-100 dives
Cavern
Then take Advanced Nitrox.
Leaping into technical diving too soon is a recipe for disaster.
Please read and digest the attached abstract written by Jeff Bozanic.
Rick