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Seems like DGX just posted a new regulator for sale. Looks like a DGX version of SP MK 25/G260 but with an auto close device DIN valve. Description is all over the place as they can’t decide if 1st stage is piston or diaphragm (although looks like piston) and they don’t even mention the auto close device except for an attached video clip. Anyone know where they got this thing and what it is exactly?
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Yes, saw that. Looks of course, can be deceiving. I'd like to see the internals. I'll contact Joyce and see if I can get a schematic.

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I wonder if it has a micro adjuster like the G260 or just one point of adjustment like HOG or the G250V, I'd guess no. That first stage is a dead ringer for a MK25 black tech.
 

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I wonder if it has a micro adjuster like the G260 or just one point of adjustment like HOG or the G250V, I'd guess no. That first stage is a dead ringer for a MK25 black tech.

Here are the pics side by side to compare:
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Interesting that DGX is now in the regulator market, other than selling other companies stuff.

There pricing is a bit high, especially for being a "house brand", even more so if they are a "re-badged" house brand.

There is no discussion on their website about servicing other than the service interval. No discussion about service kit availability either....though it should be a year or two before any purchasers need one. I imagine most shops on the planet will not be familiar with the brand and refuse to service the regs, requiring the purchaser to sent to DGX. That is doable but not so convenient.

What is most surprising, as mentioned above, is the price. 1st and 2nd stage + hose for $499.00, and oh yeah, they specifically mention one gets a "free DIN regulator cap". One can purchase a Deep 6 Signature series 1st and 2nd stages with the same length hose as the DGX (22-inch) for $386.63.

The DGX full package comes out slightly less expensive with the addition of the DIN to yoke adapater and 2nd stage necklace, than a similar Deep 6 package, but that is only added value if you want/need them, if one can do without the adapter and necklace then the Deep 6 package is just slightly less expensive than the DGX stuff.

What would the advantage be to purchasing DGX branded regulators?

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Indeed, the price is seemingly high. Also seems like they rushed the whole thing as it only comes with a Miflex 22” hose option which is very un-DGX-like. Most people don’t want Miflex these days and 22” is a useless length except as a necklaced back-up. I’m sure service kits will be posted in the near future though.
 

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Thanks for the interest in the DGX XTRA regulator. To address a couple of issues raised in the discussion...

We are in the process of launching this regulator, which we have been working on for over a year. It is indeed built to our specifications by WMD. It's definitely not an 'off-the-shelf' design and it's definitely not rushed, but not all the configurations and related materials are up on the website yet.

The initial base package on the website is just for a 1st and 2nd, with a 22-inch flex hose. As noted in a previous post, it's unusual for DGX to not offer hose length and material configuration in the base package. There are several unique things going on that explain this configuration. We are having WMD individually bench test each and every regulator on an ANSTI machine and we include the serialized printed performance report in the package shipped to the customer. Because the report is for a specific 1st stage, specific hose, and specific 2nd stage we don't include configuration options on the base regulator package web page.

We decided to configure the base package with the 22-inch hose because our history suggests we almost never sell a regulator package with the typical 27-inch to 30-inch hose widely seen in recreational regulator configurations. In fact the most common LP regulator hose length we sell is 22-inch because it's found on our Streamlined, Long Hose, Doubles and Sidemount packages, so we decided that's we way would stock the base package. If you want the base package with some other hose length, just put your request in the Special Instructions dialog box at checkout but understand that technically a different hose invalidates the serialized performance report.

As mentioned previously, we are just now introducing this regulator and we don't have all our packages built up and on the website. Lisa is taking photos for the packages now and you'll see the Streamlined, Long Hose, Doubles and Sidemount configuration packages appear on the website shortly. The pricing of the configuration packages will of course represent a better value than the base package.

As for the price, yes this regulator is a higher price than our Deep Six DGX value entry model. It's not the same regulator and definitely not a re-badged "off-the-shelf" model of the ScubaPro although it is a piston design. Is it better? We publish a sample of the ANSTI performance test results on our website and include a copy of the test on the specific regulator you are purchasing so you can make that decision for yourself. Because we believe consumers have the 'right to repair', we'll also shortly have all service kits and repair parts available for order on the website as well. Is the DGX XTRA a terrific value? We invite you to judge for yourself by considering not just the price but also the quality, performance, and support behind the Dive Gear Express reputation.
 

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Thanks for the interest in the DGX XTRA regulator. To address a couple of issues raised in the discussion...

We are in the process of launching this regulator, which we have been working on for over a year. It is indeed built to our specifications by WMD. It's definitely not an 'off-the-shelf' design and it's definitely not rushed, but not all the configurations and related materials are up on the website yet.

The initial base package on the website is just for a 1st and 2nd, with a 22-inch flex hose. As noted in a previous post, it's unusual for DGX to not offer hose length and material configuration in the base package. There are several unique things going on that explain this configuration. We are having WMD individually bench test each and every regulator on an ANSTI machine and we include the serialized printed performance report in the package shipped to the customer. Because the report is for a specific 1st stage, specific hose, and specific 2nd stage we don't include configuration options on the base regulator package web page.

We decided to configure the base package with the 22-inch hose because our history suggests we almost never sell a regulator package with the typical 27-inch to 30-inch hose widely seen in recreational regulator configurations. In fact the most common LP regulator hose length we sell is 22-inch because it's found on our Streamlined, Long Hose, Doubles and Sidemount packages, so we decided that's we way would stock the base package. If you want the base package with some other hose length, just put your request in the Special Instructions dialog box at checkout but understand that technically a different hose invalidates the serialized performance report.

As mentioned previously, we are just now introducing this regulator and we don't have all our packages built up and on the website. Lisa is taking photos for the packages now and you'll see the Streamlined, Long Hose, Doubles and Sidemount configuration packages appear on the website shortly. The pricing of the configuration packages will of course represent a better value than the base package.

As for the price, yes this regulator is a higher price than our Deep Six DGX value entry model. It's not the same regulator and definitely not a re-badged "off-the-shelf" model of the ScubaPro although it is a piston design. Is it better? We publish a sample of the ANSTI performance test results on our website and include a copy of the test on the specific regulator you are purchasing so you can make that decision for yourself. Because we believe consumers have the 'right to repair', we'll also shortly have all service kits and repair parts available for order on the website as well. Is the DGX XTRA a terrific value? We invite you to judge for yourself by considering not just the price but also the quality, performance, and support that Dive Gear Express offers.

Great....except my comment comparing price to Deep Six was not based on the Deep Six DGX value entry model it was based on Deep Six's current pricing on their website for their Signature Series 1st and 2nd stages.

I guess my pricing expectation is that i would expect piston 1st stage to cost less than similar quality diaphragm 1st stage based on the fact that a piston 1st stage is generally speaking a less technical design and typically has less parts inside. This typically translates into lower manufacturing costs. So it is surprising that the cost is so high.

I do like the notion of "right to repair" but other than that, I am just wondering if DGX can explain the advantages these regulators will have over their competitors products.

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https://www.shearwater.com/products/swift/

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