NACD Intro - 58cf Limit - Why?

[Jax]

I guess I will give dive aholic a thanks and a likes for answering the ? before it goes to page 2.

Displaying the math right or wrong, 2000 psi for a single small tank is reasonable for a cave dive to be done.

The reason I say this is look at how many cave divers die who carry a whole lot of CF, yes even over the weekend, I would beg to say it might be safer to cave dive with a single tank as you can only go so far.

I'm perfectly happy diving a pair of hundreds and sucking down only a sixth of my gas.

 

[cavemn]

I would beg to say it might be safer to cave dive with a single tank as you can only go so far.

You will not find a cave diver that agrees. I will never go into a cave with a single tank, not even a steel 120. H-valves count for the SDI solo cert because it is solo recreational diving.

 

[lv2dive]

I'm perfectly happy diving a pair of hundreds and sucking down only a sixth of my gas.

Geniunely curious: why 100's?

 

[PfcAJ]

I guess I will give dive aholic a thanks and a likes for answering the ? before it goes to page 2.

Displaying the math right or wrong, 2000 psi for a single small tank is reasonable for a cave dive to be done.

The reason I say this is look at how many cave divers die who carry a whole lot of CF, yes even over the weekend, I would beg to say it might be safer to cave dive with a single tank as you can only go so far.

You must know a lot about cave diving. Please, continue to bless us with your nuggets of wisdom.

 

[ianr33]

The reason I say this is look at how many cave divers die who carry a whole lot of CF, yes even over the weekend, I would beg to say it might be safer to cave dive with a single tank as you can only go so far.

Safer still to cave dive with just a Spare Air.

 

[TSandM]

Well, isn't VDGM's statement the rationale for at least one agency not generally approving teaching cavern or Intro in doubles?

 

[VooDooGasMan]

If you know so much how come there were 2 dive accidents this past weekend, obviously dying is part of your training.

I wont argue the point cave diving is dangerous if you are not experienced at it. Extreme cave diving is more so.

If you only go a few hundred feet in a cave with a single tank, your chances are better then over 20 cave diver deaths with tons of gear.

Cave diving really is fun and I love the caves in europe and I never took a chance ever that I could not make my way out of.

 

[ianr33]

Well, isn't VDGM's statement the rationale for at least one agency not generally approving teaching cavern or Intro in doubles?

Yes.

That never made any sense to me either.

Doubles to 1/6 has to be safer than a single to 1/3 .

 

[PfcAJ]

You're right. Cave dive with less gas. Makes perfect sense.

 

[VooDooGasMan]

As Jax is studying and ask this ? there are dive certs as TS&M has mention that still teach it, for I wonder why is it so unreasonable to understand it is more than likely safer.

I also did not say a couple of divers entered a cave got silted out and died and had single al80's both empty.