Master scuba diver question

[mjatkins]

Nope.


The worst is when I read on websites from instructors that they advertise themselves as "master scuba diver instructors". What the heck does that mean?

R..

I'm not sure about "Master Scuba Diver Instructors", but since you are discussing the PADI Master Scuba Diver rating, I assume you mean the MSDT (Master Scuba Diver Trainer) rating for PADI instructors.

Once you become a PADI OWSI (open water scuba instructor), the next step is to become qualified to teach one or more of the PADI specialty courses. Once you have a minimum number of certifications under your belt, and are qualified to teach at least 5 specialties you become an MSDT. It is simply a designation that says you are qualified to teach a student all the necessary components to achieve the Master Scuba Diver rating. The MSDT rating is also a prerequisite to moving on up the PADI instructor ladder.

Hope that helps clarify your question.

 

[Diver0001]

I'm not sure about "Master Scuba Diver Instructors", but since you are discussing the PADI Master Scuba Diver rating, I assume you mean the MSDT (Master Scuba Diver Trainer) rating for PADI instructors.

Once you become a PADI OWSI (open water scuba instructor), the next step is to become qualified to teach one or more of the PADI specialty courses. Once you have a minimum number of certifications under your belt, and are qualified to teach at least 5 specialties you become an MSDT. It is simply a designation that says you are qualified to teach a student all the necessary components to achieve the Master Scuba Diver rating. The MSDT rating is also a prerequisite to moving on up the PADI instructor ladder.

Hope that helps clarify your question.

Dude, I know what an MSDT is. I am one.

I mean there are instructors out there who advertise that they are "master scuba diver" instructors.

R..

 

[mjatkins]

Dude, I know what an MSDT is. I am one.

I mean there are instructors out there who advertise that they are "master scuba diver" instructors.

R..

Probably just marketing.

 

[Diver0001]

Probably just marketing.

My point exactly.

Marketing hot air is (IMHO) unbecoming of a scuba instructor. IMO we shouldn't be selling fluff to people.

YYMV.

R..

 

[mjatkins]

My point exactly.

Marketing hot air is (IMHO) unbecoming of a scuba instructor. IMO we shouldn't be selling fluff to people.

YYMV.

R..

It's only fluff if it carries no significance to you. It is simply a way of recognizing (or being recognized for) accomplishing a benchmark in your training. It is no different than being excited to receive your diploma for completing a series of classes in high school. Both are just a way of pausing and reflecting on your accomplishment before continuing the journey wherever it may take you.

 

[Diver0001]

Sure. I can follow that. But the guy who hands you your diploma at graduation doesn't call himself a "high school graduation instructor".

I'm just saying.....

There are instructors out there who put things on their websites that should come with a coke alert....

R..

 

[Jim Lapenta]

Who got excited about a high school diploma? When it comes down to it these days in the real world a high school diploma means nothing except it will get you into college. But a GED will do the same. If you look at the average high school graduate having a diploma is not much to brag about.

A true recognition of accomplishments would be for you not to have to pay for it. And to set it up so that it actually reflected accomplishments as a diver and not include fluff courses as qualifying for it.

 

[mjatkins]

Who got excited about a high school diploma? When it comes down to it these days in the real world a high school diploma means nothing except it will get you into college. But a GED will do the same. If you look at the average high school graduate having a diploma is not much to brag about.

A true recognition of accomplishments would be for you not to have to pay for it. And to set it up so that it actually reflected accomplishments as a diver and not include fluff courses as qualifying for it.

With all due respect, if your picture does you justice, it appears it may have been a while since you graduated from high school, and as such the memory may have faded. I would most respectfully disagree if your assertion is that high school grads are not excited to graduate. As evidence I put forth the graduate's propensity to comemorate the event with a party, or par-tay, as it were. : ) Come on, are we really going to argue that a high school grad is not excited, or even proud of their accomplishments?

 

[mksmith713]

Not five specialty dives. Fives specialty courses.
Still just a way for us to PutAnotherDollarIn.

 

[Diver0001]

comemorate the event with a party, or par-tay, as it were. : ) Come on, are we really going to argue that a high school grad is not excited, or even proud of their accomplishments?

I remember our par-TAY.... or at least part of it. It took me days to recover!

Even 26 years on, the thought of doing that again makes me groan....

I was actually more excited graduating from high school than I was when I graduated from University. At least in high-school I went to my grad (I was hoping to get laid.... alas.....that's a long story).

At university, I went but sat in the audience and yawned with the rest of the people who felt it was their obligation to come because someone they knew was graduating. there wasn't a single person in the whole place who really wanted to be there. 1/2 way through I left and went to drink beer while the rest of the grads wished an earthquake would stop the ceremony short.

R..