Martial Arts Training?

[knobber]

I am a brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner (blue belt), and totally immersed myself into it, until my back started acting up. I loved how your best attack was where most other arts lacked, i.e. on the ground. And, it was the most incredible workout I've ever done, in that it utilized your entire body.

Now I just sit in meetings and try to match a good submission to each person sitting around the tables.

 

[BradfordNC]

we do a lot of ju jitsu. works great for quickly getting control and incapacitating someone. another benifit is the fact that its incredibly easy to learn the basics, and those basics are effective right from the start.

just this summer had a student with only 3 days worth of training become the victim of a home invasion.
it was about 1am and he woke up to find some dude in his bedroom. he did what he had been trained to do, gain the dominant position and go for submission. he did it, and has his wife call 911. must have been a sight, he was to scared to release the dude, and was still naked when the cops showed up. however, because he didn't let up, the dude was dead when the cops showed up. and no, the cops didn't arrest our guy, he acted in self-defense.

 

[knobber]

however, because he didn't let up, the dude was dead when the cops showed up. and no, the cops didn't arrest our guy, he acted in self-defense

WOW, me laughing about him being naked was quickly snuffed when I read this. I'm guessing he had a mata leo choke (rear naked), which is the real deal and stops blood flow to the brain. And this AIN'T no "dim mak" type body blow or anything, for those of you who don't know. I had a friend tell me I couldn't choke him cold with it, and he collapsed in just 3 seconds (didn't totally go out though). Scary stuff in the wrong hands, let me tell you. Glad your friend is alright, and that situation is a testament to the REAL purpose and use of martial arts.

 

[BradfordNC]

Knobber,

yup, he was able to rear mount the dude and used the rear naked choke. and yeah, 3 seconds and its "sac-o-potatos" time.

lol, guess you could say he did the "naked rear-naked choke"

i think he said it took about 25 minutes for the police to arrive. with the bloodflow to the head shut off for that long, dude was well past reviving.

 

[mgri]

When I was taking Dan Zan Ryu JuJitsu, Some of the guys volunteered to be choked out by the instructor. When you are choked out your brain goes wacko and you can have some really weird dreams.

One guy, after sensei revived him, told us he was paddling in a boat and a bear was on his back trying to push him down. I guess the bear was the sensei


One martial art that a lot of people don't even consider when looking into hard striking styles is boxing.

After taking Jujitsu, Kenpo and BS American karate, I would say, hands down, boxing is the most grueling fighting style I've taken. If you take boxing from a true boxing gym for a month you will learn to appreciate the meaning of "fighting fit".

Also, striking style martial artist would be amazed at the amount of defense involved in boxing. Throwing a three to four punch combo is cake compared to blocking, slipping or avoiding said combo.

 

[knobber]

I've both choked out (accidentally) and been choked out (on my last night I ever trained--not a good memory to keep with me). I remember the choke wasn't THAT tight, and it was even by a newbie that I was telling "sink it tighter, good, good". Next thing I know, I remember this weird buzzing feeling during blackness, and my mind was saying "am I at work? No; Am I in (hometown)? No; Am I back in school? No. Then I wake up and there's FOUR guys staring down at me, saying I was snoring like a buzzsaw and I had drool all over me and the mats. Personally, I thought it was awesome to be choked out. The newbie was so scared he was almost crying, and I went straight to him and said that it is NEVER the choker's fault, it's the chokee's fault for not tapping, and he felt better.

The next day, I got an MRI that was interpreted as "your high school football days have decided that you will not be able to train again". I was devastated.

 

[BradfordNC]

MGRI,

in our training, we use boxers. it is helpfull in teachin a person to "achive the clinch"
in other words, closing the distance and achieving a hold on the boxer in such a way so that your next move is a takedown to achieve the dominant position. with that done, its time for the finishing moves.
we use boxers for two reasons. the first is cause like ya said, boxers are good at defense and don't like to let ya inside their striking distance.
the second is to teach people to take a hit. lets face it, your gonna get punched. if you get punched and back off, you just gotta go back in there and get punched some more. but if you continue to close, you get inside his punches and take away his advantage.

Knobber,
we get a lot of egos around here, and no one wants to tap, so plenty of dudes either get choked out, or they wait till they are lookin through the straw before they finally tap. they say they, "don't wanna just give it to ya" even though they are helpless once ya got the hold on them.

lol, i love it when someone charges ya. get 'em in the guillotine and then fall backwards so they are in your guard. then it's stretchy stretchy time lol
lol start rockin while doin it, and ya can bang their noggin into the ground at the same time.

 

[zeN||]

If you are looking for a good basic system for street warfare, try Kenpo karate, if you like the more sophisticated cat-like forms try kung fu, if you are looking for the inner/mental/spiritual aspects of eastern systems try tai chi, if you are only in it for 3 months I reccomend something akin to kenpo, you can learn a good basic set of fighting skills in this system in 3 months, whereas in other styles you won't get as much information in this short period cheers zeN

 

[JustAddWater]

I studied aiki-jujitsu in college, and some aikido while I lived in Japan. I enjoyed the grappling aspect of aikijujitsu, and it blended well with aikido. The stretching and breathing exercises were of particular benefit.

 

[mgri]

zeN|| once bubbled...
If you are looking for a good basic system for street warfare, try Kenpo karate, if you like the more sophisticated cat-like forms try kung fu, if you are looking for the inner/mental/spiritual aspects of eastern systems try tai chi, if you are only in it for 3 months I reccomend something akin to kenpo, you can learn a good basic set of fighting skills in this system in 3 months, whereas in other styles you won't get as much information in this short period cheers zeN

I took American Kenpo for about four years, and while I loved the intricacies of it, I learned more about fighting in three months at a boxing gym.

If you are looking for fighting skills take boxing and a good grappling art which has a strong emphases on take downs and you'll never have a problem holding your own.

As far as pure martial arts go I thoroughly enjoyed Aikido for the limited amount of time I took it.