ScubaNorth
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Well don't just throw that out there. If you want to offer advice I'm all ears (well eyes).
P.S. Please include maps or sketches.
P.S. Please include maps or sketches.
Lobster question
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NewportDiving
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Most likely a diver has eaten the claws already, which I think are better then the tail. Unfortunately they took both claws, and not just one. This seems to be a common practice now, I have heard especially in Massachusetts where there is a low and high size limit, what can DEM do if you just have claws not much no law protecting this practice. In Florida when the stone crab was disappearing they start a law where you could only take 1 claw and if it was missing one already well you had to move on and the stone crabs are back. Most of the time when claws are lost in battle there will be other signs of a fight on the lobster. Also a 4-5 pounder usually does not loose the fight unless there is a monster lobster around.
scubastew
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It has ALWAYS been my impression that if you are caught with "just a claw" that's against the law and there are huge penalties for partial lobsters. Otherwise folks would declaw the big'ns all the time...can anyone back up my assumption. I swear I was told that culling a lobster intentionally was a huge No-No...
Green_Manelishi
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scubastew:
I have heard the same. It is assumed that if all you possess is the claws, the lobster itself was undersized.
NewportDiving
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Please show me where this is written I have the DEM laws for RI right here, nothing saying you can not do this, I may be missing something. Because I would really like to know, I do not do this pratice but I have heard of many that do. I do not want to miss lead anyone either.
It is a huge...NO NO NO if you just take the claws and get caught..and also for undersize lobsters. we've known someone that had shorties..and got caught...he had his vehicle taken away...his diving gear taken away..he was fined also and in some case's you can end up in jail for that.
MASS-Diver
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scubastew:
Yup in Ma, this is the case (I don't know about RI) - you need an intact bug with a carpace to measure. Obviously, you can't be walking up the beach with 10 sets of severed tails and claws
ScubaNorth
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"Mutilation of any lobster which affects its measurement or the possession of
lobster parts shall be prima facie evidence that the lobster was less than legal
minimum size."
Copied form the MA something something something for Divers. Oh heck here's the link .........
http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/publications/diver_abstract_080304.pdf
I know more than my fair share of divers and to purposely pull a claw off a Lobster is usually thought of as right up there with kicking puppies or slapping babies.
lobster parts shall be prima facie evidence that the lobster was less than legal
minimum size."
Copied form the MA something something something for Divers. Oh heck here's the link .........
http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/publications/diver_abstract_080304.pdf
I know more than my fair share of divers and to purposely pull a claw off a Lobster is usually thought of as right up there with kicking puppies or slapping babies.
MSilvia
Contributor
Okay... I'm happy to give some advice.ScubaNorth:
If you dive at locations that are popular with divers, afford easy parking, and are littered with traps, you probably aren't going to have as much luck as if you dive at out of the way spots that are too rocky for boats to get on top of. There are some exceptions, but I don't think posting the info on where to find my good spots on the internet is a good idea.
That notwithstanding, boat dives tend to be the best bet in my experience, and I've come up with as many as 10 keepers in 20 minutes when diving some of the islands in Boston's outer harbor. If you can't pay for your permit in the first dive on the dropoff on the northern shore of Outer Brewster Island, you must be doing it wrong. There's hardly anything there but rocks and lobsters.
ScubaNorth
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MSilvia:Okay... I'm happy to give some advice.
If you dive at locations that are popular with divers, afford easy parking, and are littered with traps, you probably aren't going to have as much luck as if you dive at out of the way spots that are too rocky for boats to get on top of. There are some exceptions, but I don't think posting the info on where to find my good spots on the internet is a good idea.
That notwithstanding, boat dives tend to be the best bet in my experience, and I've come up with as many as 10 keepers in 20 minutes when diving some of the islands in Boston's outer harbor. If you can't pay for your permit in the first dive on the dropoff on the northern shore of Outer Brewster Island, you must be doing it wrong. There's hardly anything there but rocks and lobsters.
I knew I wasn't getting any maps or sketches. OK I'll give OBI a try and see if I can justify the giant lobster pot I bought when I first recvd my permit. I was only kidding about the $200 it's actually, after all new gear this season more like $300.00/lb.
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