Leisure pro - voided warranty????

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What do you mean by "came out of the shadows". I believe that Oceanic was one of the few (maybe only) major manufacturers putting some real heat on LP. My guess is that Oceanic was successful enough to entice LP to accept their mfgr agreement and just become another competitively priced priced authorized Oceanic dealer. Unfortunately, some of the attractiveness of the deal is lost once that happens.



Oceanic used to moan about L.P.s' 'unauthorized' sales of their stuff. Yet when the EOS came out, L.P. had them before so-called 'authorized dealers' did. How did that happen ? I suspect that Oceanic was supplying L.P. 'in the shadows', so to speak, all along. As does other manufacturers. Oceanic products are still are being sold by L.P. at cut rate prices compared to what LDS' have to sell for. I bought a VT3 with transmitter and OceanLog cable for $649. About $300 cheaper than a LDS. And a GT3 reg with a CDX5 1st stage can be had for $199.
 
Hey Sell66, I have owned two MK20/S600 rigs for 10 years and love them. I selected the S550 for my back-up rig's octo and I ocasionaly have free-flow issues with it especially after service. I recommend adjustable second stages if at all posiable as you can generally corect that issue by adjusting/restricting out-flow volume. Therefore, I would recomend the S600 or G250 as your second stage. Scott
 
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Mike S.... I could not agree with you more concerning your observations on LP's selling significant volumes of products such as Aqua Lung/Apex as you refrenced. Either they supply to them directly or funnel to them via a third party. Obviously all the manufcatures would have to do is spot purchase their products from LP and trace the source through serial numbers if they truly did not already know the facts. Their internet warnings and threats are merely to placate their gullabal dealers IMO. Scott
 
LeisurePro is an authorized dealer for many of the items in their inventory, but not all. I believe that they had recently become an authorized dealer for Sherwood.

I bought my Aeris Elite T3 (same as Oceanic VT3) from my LDS for $750. $100 more than Leisure Pro. Big deal. If anything were to ever happen to my dive comp, my LDS will be there to immediately address the issue by either giving me an immediate replacement or lend me a dive comp while mine is returned to the manufacturer for repair.

My main dive buddy bought a Sherwood Wisdom 1 from Leisure Pro. It had gone back to them twice already for the same problem (computer just decide to fritz out and have all sorts of crazy displays with alarms going off non-stop). Supposedly LP sent it back to Sherwood for "repair", yet the same problem persisted. My LDS would have simply gave him another dive comp and handle the issue with Sherwood on the defective unit. BTW, my LDS lent him a cheap Gecko to dive with while Leisure Pro "handled" the warranty work. He didn't even buy the damn thing at the LDS (but he did buy a lot of other things at that LDS), but the LDS helped him out anyway.

So tell me, how much is that extra $100 or $200 worth when you're missing out on some good dives?

Anyway, it's the OP's money and he should spend it any which way he wants. I know how I spend my money and it ain't at LeisurePro or ScubaToy.
 
The Titan LX is a decent reg. It doesn't breath as well as the Atomic at depth, but it works.

That's not really comparing Apples to Apples. Most Atomics cost 2 to 3 times as much as a AL Titan LX


As far as Cressi goes, I try not to touch anything of Italian in origin that is important to my health. I own Italian motorcycles, but that's about as far as I'd trust Italian quality control.:D

The computer isn't make by Cressi. It's made by Seiko. Just OEM'd.

Seiko makes the same computer for Dive Rite, Tusa, Cressi and Zeagle. I doubt it even touched land in Italy on it's way from Tawain or where ever it was made on it's way to the US.


Suunto makes solid dive comps but they use conservative algorithm. What this means is that if you were to dive with a buddy using a different computer, your dive comp may direct you to surface a lot sooner than his would. I.

I've seen this first hand when diving with someone with a Suunto. They ran out of NDL way before I did.


all the manufcatures would have to do is spot purchase their products from LP and trace the source through serial numbers if they truly did not already know the facts.

I think a couple of manufacturers have done this... others claim to have done it but clearly didn't make a dent in what LP was selling of their brand. Others chose to quit fighting LP and make them a dealer.

For the ones that claim to have tried that, sometimes these are the same manufacturers that are direct/indirect shipping to them anyway and is claim is just more kool-aid they are trying to sell competing LDS's.

In the end, the manufacturers really don't want to loose the sales volume to LP because if they cut them off, then most likely the LP customer will choose a competing brand and the original manufacturer looses out.

in this bad economy where the dive industry is suffering, having layoffs, having reduced orders, etc... I can't see any dive manufacturer wanting to cut product distribution to any 'seller', whether it's LP or other.



LeisurePro is an authorized dealer for many of the items in their inventory, but not all. I believe that they had recently become an authorized dealer for Sherwood.

I have a feeling that LP becoming a recent Sherwood dealer is partly because Sherwood got tired of other dealers complaining about having to compete with them and offer price match on products.

I wonder if it was the same large online Zeagle dealer that talked Zeagle into making LP an authorized Zeagle dealer so they didn't have to compete. (they sell Sherwood also.) :popcorn:

In the end, this resulted in huge price increases of Zeagle products on the LP website and now that other mentioned dealer no longer had to compete with price match...

I just wonder if the same people are pulling the strings here.... :popcorn:
 
I found the last years model Titan LX for a really good price... but I heard that some have been recalled. Has anyone heard of this?
 
That's not really comparing Apples to Apples. Most Atomics cost 2 to 3 times as much as a AL Titan LX
I didn't make a price comparison because the OP didn't ask for a price comparison. He asks about the Titan LX, which I happen to have a set, and I also have the Atomic B2, so I figure I'll give him some feedbacks on their performances and he can decide how much money he wants to spend on what.

The LX's secondary has a mouthpiece that's made out of rather hard rubber and tends to jam into my gums. I suppose I could spend an extra $20 and replace it with a soft orthordontic mouthpiece one of these days. The flow adjustment knob is also sensitive. If cranked opened to easy breathing, it tends to freeflow on the surface.

Not a deal breaker, but if the OP is interested in this model then he needs to know how it works.
I found the last years model Titan LX for a really good price... but I heard that some have been recalled. Has anyone heard of this?
I haven't heard about this recall either.
 
More LP FUD? cmon grow up people.
 
Ill find the link that shows the recall and post it
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/teric/

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