Kubi Dry Glove Issues

[Dont_Hold_Your_Breath]

Tested out my Kubi dry gloves today and I must be doing something wrong. When I press the glove side into the black o-ring on the suit side wanted to jump over to the ring on my hand. Pretty sure I'm just pushing the glove on too hard. I watched videos of people installing their Kubi dry gloves and tried to follow what they did.

It seems they gently press the glove side on so that the red o-ring is no longer visible but you can still see the outside of the black o-ring. This approach worked well for me for while but during one test my glove popped off. I tried removing all the air in the glove before installing the glove which seemed to help and was staying shallow in 1m of water. Would like to confirm that it's really just a gentle push to get the glove side on and any other advice/suggestions. Seems like they come off easier than I would like but might just take some getting used to. I installed Showa Atlas 495 gloves for some cold water diving I'm going to do so that could be part of the problem too, the gloves are nice but at 2.5mm thick they were pretty hard to get on the rings.

Glove when installed (before the cuff covering is pulled over):

Glove side:

 

[ChrisMBC]

I’m struggling to understand exactly what problem you’re having, but one thing I can tell you is that the way you have the gloves installed at the moment will leak. You have to install them the other way around for lined gloves, otherwise water wicks along the lining.

 

[Tassie_Rohan]

Hi there -

It does look like your black o ring (which holds the cuff protector in place) is too close to the red o ring.

There should be a ~4mm space (marked 'A' below) between the red and cuff protector black o ring. Push the glove all the way in until this space is gone and the black o ring is pushed against the drysuit assembly. This extra space makes a big difference in the seal.

I suspect you may have have placed the red o ring, and glove o ring, on the wrong sides of the glove assembly - A mistake I also made the first time.

And - in the category of 'Tips I did not ask for', as we are on things Kubi:

1) I find large amounts of spit is the perfect lubricant for getting these gloves on.
2) Ansell heavy duty gloves, found in supermarkets worldwide, are more than adequate as dry gloves, at a fraction of the price of 'official' dry gloves.
3) Do you struggle to stretch the O rings when getting them onto the grooves? If so then use a tapered cocktail shaker as an applicator to dilate the ring and apply:

Cheers
Rohan

 

[crofrog]

That glove will not work installed like that because of the flocking. It’ll leak you have to install it so the glove goes back inside itself.

 

[macado]

For cloth-lined gloves like the Showas you posted you basically need to invert the glove fitting. The excess of the glove will be on the inside and seal against the outer glove surface rather than the cloth-lined surface.

There is a guide here (with pictures)

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[Dont_Hold_Your_Breath]

For cloth-lined gloves like the Showas you posted you basically need to invert the glove fitting. The excess of the glove will be on the inside and seal against the outer goal surface rather than the cloth-lined surface.

There is a guide here (with pictures)

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The subject has come up a lot... So here's how. Thanks to buddhasummer for sharing these awesome instructions and allowing me to post them here. :D Some detail on these gloves: The SHOWA 720 is the latest and greatest "smurf" style glove. It is thinner, stretchier, warmer, and tougher than the...

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Thank you that is super helpful! Will redo my dry gloves tomorrow and see how it goes. I have done a little googling and watching videos but still confused which side the red o-ring goes on. Tried both sides and both seem to fit equally well into my suit. Looked at the user guide and wasn't clear to me either and my rings do not have the markings on them that @Tassie_Rohan has. I hate to ask without looking into it more but running on one hour of sleep.

 

[Tassie_Rohan]

Thank you that is super helpful! Will redo my dry gloves tomorrow and see how it goes. I have done a little googling and watching videos but still confused which side the red o-ring goes on. Tried both sides and both seem to fit equally well into my suit. Looked at the user guide and wasn't clear to me either and my rings do not have the markings on them that @Tassie_Rohan has. I hate to ask without looking into it more but running on one hour of sleep.

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Hi there - I added the 'A' marking in my image in photoshop.

The red ring that seals with the dry suit sleeve goes in groove 1
The black ring that holds the glove goes in groove 2.

 

[Dont_Hold_Your_Breath]

Very much appreciate all the help! Gloves are on. Since the diameter of the glove is much larger than the ring there are a couple folds around the retaining ring. I tried to smooth the folds out as much as possible but there is so much glove material I don't think you can put a large glove on without a couple folds. Hopefully this doesn't leak.

 

[ChrisMBC]

Narrator voice: it did, in fact, leak.

@Dont_Hold_Your_Breath , that will 100% leak. My hands are tiny so I don’t have a lot of experience putting the larger glove sizes on, but with some wriggling you should be able to get those creases out. The glove should also get smaller the further up it you go (the gauntlet is typically tapered), so if you pull more of the glove through the ring, that could help.

 

[Kendall Raine]

Hi there -

It does look like your black o ring (which holds the cuff protector in place) is too close to the red o ring.

There should be a ~4mm space (marked 'A' below) between the red and cuff protector black o ring. Push the glove all the way in until this space is gone and the black o ring is pushed against the drysuit assembly. This extra space makes a big difference in the seal.

I suspect you may have have placed the red o ring, and glove o ring, on the wrong sides of the glove assembly - A mistake I also made the first time.

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And - in the category of 'Tips I did not ask for', as we are on things Kubi:

1) I find large amounts of spit is the perfect lubricant for getting these gloves on.
2) Ansell heavy duty gloves, found in supermarkets worldwide, are more than adequate as dry gloves, at a fraction of the price of 'official' dry gloves.
3) Do you struggle to stretch the O rings when getting them onto the grooves? If so then use a tapered cocktail shaker as an applicator to dilate the ring and apply:

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Cheers
Rohan

Love the repurposed martini shaker.