Kerry's Support for LNG......

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jchaplain:
What's your source for this information? I haven't heard or seen anything about it on the news ( and I looked.)

John C.

It was on the front page of yesterday's Patriot Ledger (the main paper on the SS). Here's a link - if it doesn't work, just search their archives.


http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/02/15/news/news02.txt

Pretty sad stuff. There sure aren't too many wild spots left, but, then again, I guess if there was one tree left on the planet there'd be someone ready to cut it down to make a dollar and another person all set to rationalize it.

Save The Brewsters
 
And then there are those that try to justify and rationalize their need for recreation over the basic needs (heat and electricity) of millions of other people. They'd rather see shortages and prices skyrocketing out of control than give up one uninhabited and unvisited rock in the middle of a major commercial seaport because it might interfere with their ability to have fun.
 
Dragon2115:
They'd rather see shortages and prices skyrocketing out of control than give up one uninhabited and unvisited rock in the middle of a major commercial seaport because it might interfere with their ability to have fun.
God, I do love it when prices skyrocket out of control... on my list of favorite things, that's right up there with people who make a lot of inaccurate assumptions and sweeping generalizations about peoples' motivations. What an astute observation, and so utterly deviod of spin! Bravo.
 
Dragon2115:
And then there are those that try to justify and rationalize their need for recreation over the basic needs (heat and electricity) of millions of other people. They'd rather see shortages and prices skyrocketing out of control than give up one uninhabited and unvisited rock in the middle of a major commercial seaport because it might interfere with their ability to have fun.



For point of fact, it's actually in the middle of National Park. To answer your other questions (not so much to you) but to others who really want to learn about this important issue: From the save the brewster site.

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Q: Our region suffered gas shortages last winter. Don’t we need another LNG
facility in New England
?
A: Until 2001, two facilities provided the nation’s entire LNG supply,
Distrigas in Everett (the nation’s oldest, operating since 1971), and a second
in Lake Charles, Louisiana. Two more have opened since then, in
Maryland and Georgia, and, prior to Hurricane Katrina, one was planned
to open in the Gulf of Mexico. Yes, our region suffered gas shortages last
winter – but not because the gas was unavailable. Shortages resulted from
company miscalculations of demand combined with out-dated, too-small
delivery pipes. The regional needs now have been recalculated to reflect
South Shore population growth over the past several years, and the old
3-inch pipe has been replaced with appropriate 8-inch pipe to assure consistent
delivery to every home and business.
While New England’s energy needs are undoubtedly on the rise,
we believe that our legislators and citizens need to truly understand those
needs before selling our precious natural resources to companies seeking
fast profits in a business (LNG) that is ripe for exploitation. As far as we
know, there has never been a comprehensive review of the actual and
projected energy needs of the country, let alone our region, so how can we
make informed decisions addressing current and future energy problems?
Additionally, there has been no widespread, coordinated, government
effort to encourage or educate people about energy conservation and efficiency
— a key factor in assessing our short- and long-terms needs.
We all want reliable and affordable energy. However, with dwindling
natural resources (the U.S. has already nearly depleted our own
natural gas supplies) and increasing demand, we must become informed
consumers who carefully weigh the cost-benefit of “solutions,” particularly
those that come wrapped in profit for others.
 
What is LNG? Natural gas that has been cooled to minus 260. That allows the amount of gas that would fill a beach ball to be put into a ping pong ball. Natural gas is clean burning and the process of cooling, storing and shipping it in liquid form is surprising efficient. There are many websites that will teach you more than you want to know. THE PROBLEM lies in the re-warming of the gas from liquid back to gaseous. (I am NOT an expert in this by any means) A LNG deep water station has been proposed for the Gulf of Mexico off the Louisiana coast. The problem lies in if the warming process is an closed circuit or open circuit. Closed circuit is more expensive because less local water is used. Open circuit is much cheaper because seawater is pumped in and I don't know the real process about this but the way it was explained locally was that this water is treated with chemicals to KILL all organisms so that the pumps and piping would not be clogged. This water is then dumped overboard and millions of gallons of DEAD water is introduced into the ocean. This would create large dead zones that would have no living creatures. As far as the chemistry, the physics etc. I am clueless but from my understanding the closed circuit is much better albeit more expensive.
I suggest more research is needed.
 
There is a proposed one in LI sound. It will sit 11 miles from the CT coast and 8 from NY's. The security zones around the tankers and terminal. I beleive that these tankers will only be able to transit LI sound at night. The security zone is 1.5 mile in front of 500 yards to each side and 440 yds behind. But even with all that I question the safety of it. I found this link that might be of interest

http://www.pulp.tc/html/li_energy_answer_comes_with_ri.html
 
An LNG plant (closed loop) is now being built in Quintana Texas. Attemps to build one open loop offshore LA is being vigorisly opposed. The plant pipeline will hook up with the national line going up north.
 
Dragon2115:
And then there are those that try to justify and rationalize their need for recreation over the basic needs (heat and electricity) of millions of other people. They'd rather see shortages and prices skyrocketing out of control than give up one uninhabited and unvisited rock in the middle of a major commercial seaport because it might interfere with their ability to have fun.
If there was such a shortage explain Mobils CEO getting a 10 Million dollar bonus after the Company made 80 Billion in Profits....thats after all bills are paid. The only shortage is the one the oil and gas companys make for us so they can rape the consumer for more profits for themselves.
 
Maybe I am missing the point here... I am not seeing what the issue is... a LNG receiving terminal has been proposed to import the cleanest fossil fuel available. Regasification of LNG to natural gas does not create the types of pollution common with power plants... actually the reverse. Other than some big ships and some port development... what is the concern? Even if a LNG ship was to "spill" ala Exxon Valdez... the gas would vaporize and leave 'zero' hydrocarbons behind! Just starting a discussion here on the real issue... I assume related to environmental concerns!
 

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