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Jardines Aggressor - Cuba Liveaboard

Discussion in 'Aggressor Adventures' started by Joe Cool, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Ayisha

    Ayisha Contributor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Toronto, Canada
    3,304
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    Yes, Aquasub runs trips to Cuba about every 3 - 4 weeks and they seem to always have a full trip. I'm with Stoo. I've been diving in Cuba, but want to go back before all the Americans invade it more than they've started to. I would love to go to Jardines de la Reina, and Norbert is working on that for this summer, and it will be a long haul. He's also almost got a liveaboard ready to go to Isla du Juventud shortly, the last I talked to him a month ago...
     
  2. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Just to be completely clear, the regulations on tourist travel to Cuba haven't changed. The following guidance from Department of the Treasury is still in effect, and any attempt to circumvent the rules will be met with the "stiffest prosecution" (The words of the OFAC representative that I spoke with this morning at Department of Treasury). Just to be clear, I think travel to Cuba should be free and open, and I look forward to taking my boat there, but Scuba Diving is specifically mentioned in the literature.

    http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/cubatrav.pdf

    CUBA TRAVEL ADVISORY

    WARNING: TOUR PACKAGES FOR SCUBA DIVING,

    BICYCLING, HUNTING, FISHING, HIKING OR
    OTHER TOURIST TRAVEL IN CUBA ARE ILLEGAL


    It has come to the attention of the Office of Foreign Assets Control (“OFAC”) that certain specialty tours to Cuba that are offered by travel agencies in third countries are marketed to U.S travelers as being in compliance with the prohibitions of the U.S. embargo against Cuba. These trips are usually designed for individuals with an interest in outdoor activities, such as scuba diving, bicycling, hunting or fishing. The sales material often maintains that because the traveler prepays the third­ country travel agency for expenses that otherwise would be paid by the traveler while within Cuba, such as hotels, meals, ground transportation, equipment rental and services, etc., this type of trip is in compliance with the applicable U.S. regulations on travel-related transactions involving Cuba that apply to persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

    This advisory is to alert U.S. travelers who participate in such trips that engaging in prepaid arrangements for travel expenditures otherwise prohibited by the Cuba Assets Control Regulations, 31 CFR Part 515 (the “Regulations”), will expose travelers to the possibility of civil monetary penalties from OFAC. [Return to the OFAC directory and click on the button marked LEGAL to see a copy of the Regulations.]

    A Cuban vacation package that is prepaid by U.S travelers through a travel agency located in a third country does not qualify as “fully-hosted” travel as described in the
    Regulations. This is true regardless of the type of currency that is used to purchase the package tour. This type of trip is simply an “all-inclusive” vacation package similar to ones available at most resort and vacation destinations anywhere in the world.


    The Regulations prohibit all transactions relating to travel-related tourist transactions in Cuba including prepayment in third countries for Cuba-related expenses.

    U.S. travelers must take care in relying upon the Cuba travel­ related information made available by travel agencies operating within or outside the United States as a definitive source of information on the U.S. economic embargo against Cuba. In the event you have any questions about travel transactions with Cuba, please contact OFAC or carefully check the Regulations before you engage in any activities that may be in a violation of the law. The Regulations are the definitive statement of the law with respect to the prohibitions of the U.S. embargo with respect to Cuba.

    Date 06/27/01





    ---------- Post added April 8th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ----------

    Because as an American company, they are not authorized to offer this tour. Where did your money for the trip go, inside the US or outside, just out of curiosity? My discussion with the Cuba OFAC representative was most unenlightening. He couldn't/wouldn't tell me when where or anything else except "we don't issue charter permits to vessels".
     
  3. LiquidDivingAdventure

    LiquidDivingAdventure Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: North America
    660
    105
    Here is the information I have received from Aggressor. Although I regularly book Aggressor and Dancer charters, at this point I would probably not recommend any US citizens for these trips. Too much conflicting government info.

    Cuba Oceans For Youth flyer Seattle 2015_Page_1.jpg Cuba Oceans For Youth flyer Seattle 2015_Page_2.jpg
     
  4. BDSC

    BDSC Contributor

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Wake Forest, NC
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    I had a chance to book the entire boat as well but there are just to many uncertainties for me right now to have my folks send them money. And it's my understanding that each individual will have to pay "Oceans for youth" directly. They collect your money. If it all falls through will there be any recourse to get your money back? I'll give it a few years and if it all goes well, I may book it.
     
  5. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Jersey
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    5,281
    Morning, I'm Smoketoomuch.
     
  6. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Would you like to come upstairs?
     
  7. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Jersey
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    What's all this about going upstairs?
     
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  8. Stoo

    Stoo NAUI Instructor

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Freelton & Tobermory, Ontario, Canada
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    Just to be clear, my comment about going before the "Mericans get there wasn't meant as a slight in any way... Only that if/when this happens, it will make for larger crowds and likely price increases.

    In the mean time, if anyone from the US of A wants to go, you can stay over night at my house and fly from Toronto the next morning! :)
     
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  9. Wookie

    Wookie Curmudgeon Apprentice ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    It's all good. It gives me a chance to practice my Monty Python.
     
  10. drbill

    drbill The Lorax for the Kelp Forest Scuba Legend

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: Santa Catalina Island, CA
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    I remember Jean-Michel Cousteau telling me that his father was quite impressed with Fidel Castro's interest in preserving the marine ecosystems off Cuba. A few years ago I had an invite to go to Guantanamo to dive but had scheduling conflicts. I'm not a big fan of Caribbean diving (greatly prefer the South Pacific and Asia) but I'd be interested in diving Cuba to see how it differs from other Caribbean destinations I've dived.
     

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