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Now that we've got that foolishness out of the way, do you want to know what we do, how we do it and most of all why?Mverick:Your answers aren't adding up.
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Now that we've got that foolishness out of the way, do you want to know what we do, how we do it and most of all why?Mverick:Your answers aren't adding up.
String:In YOUR view. In my view, they dont.
Even in the "recreational" range, a lost belt at 30 or 40m will send you up, rapidly with a risk of AGE, DCS and other barotrauma.
In of the view they EVERYONE should be able to bail themselves out and not have to rely on a potentially unreliable third party (ie a buddy). That doesnt mean dive solo, it means that outside instruction all divers should be able to sensibly rescue themselves from most situations.
CompuDude:For someone who has been on SB since 2001, you suck at reading.
Check Thalassamania's profile before questioning his credentials. It's all there, in black and white. He's got more credentials than you can hope for in the next 10 years.
And the breadth and quality of his posts here on SB back that up.
Thalassamania:Thats what you think. Theres never been need for a certificate beyond the detailed training record book that each receives, except when working at European Universities where the workplace safety stuff has required me to write an additional letter and them to get a CMAS Scientific Diver Brevet.
Thats not what I said, I stated that: Clearly you've never tried it. I can drop a 35 lb weight belt in 60 feet of water, flare out and exhale to the surface at a rate of slightly more than 70FPM. You asked Have you ever had to do this? And forgiving your incredible rudeness considering that I just stated that I had in point of fact done that and told you what the resultant ascent rate was, I added that I do it (remember what it is?) Several dozen times every class (I should have said course rather than class so as to be completely clear) from 20 feet. This is, in point of fact, the case. Its part of the training and I use a full gear, doff and don, with a buoyant ascent in the middle as part of my normal kata.
And I answered: Don't know about an overweighted student, never had one. And I can say the same about a new diver: Don't know about an overweighted new diver, never had one. I added that every student has done this several dozen times every class from 20 feet and at least once in o/w from 30. This is part of their training.
My students and divers do not need to have their weight checked by my or by a DM before entering the water. Perhaps yours do, but please dont project the awkwardness and incompetence that youre used to onto programs that you know nothing about.
Probably not right. Once again, please dont project the awkwardness and incompetence that youre used to onto programs that you know nothing about.
Frankly, it appears that you do no think, so nor not so.
Between the free diving doff and don and the scuba doff and don 36 is likely a low estimate. We have 14 pool session and typically 12 available practice sessions that most student attend so thats 26 pool adventures and Im sure they do at least two doff and dons per session thats 48 right there without even getting to open water.
They add up, you just have no idea of what your talking about.