Interesting article on U.S. Tipping

[Centrals]

Not in the menu. In the bill.

All the restaurants that you have been eating did the same?
You should have challenged the bill.
Report it to the Tourist Police.

 

[Blackcrusader]

Read carefully what I had written!
"HK is probably the ONLY place in SE Asia that tipping is NOT uncommon".

Was just listing countries I have lived and worked in SEA

 

[Blackcrusader]

If you understand cultures are different you know that in some the DM is not being paid, their salary is tips. If you allow them to run your dive and not tip, that is taking money out of their pocket.

I have never dived where guides or DM's are not paid and I have over 36 years of diving several thousand dives in Australia, South East Asia, Taiwan, and Japan.

In which countries do you travel to where a DM is not paid?

 

[Centrals]

Was just listing countries I have lived and worked in SEA

I have travelled a lot more countries in SE Asia than those pathetic few you had listed.
There are 11 members in ASEAN and you have a long way to catch up.

 

[brsnow]

I have never dived where guides or DM's are not paid. In which countries do you travel to where a DM is not paid?

Mexico is most common, same with some of the guides when bonefishing. Was explained that the captain is typically the only one getting paid, rest are tips. Have they actually told you they are getting paid?

More of my experience is with fishing globally though. Mates and bait guys tend to rely on tips.

 

[drrich2]

No one tips me for doing my job.

That's a common criticism, and very understandable. I have a personal theory that some of this may've taken hold dealing with waitstaff many years ago in light of some situational factors:

1.) Waitressing was thought to be rather low paying.
2.) Some chit chat between customer and waitperson was probably fairly common.
3.) A common saying way back when people were paying nearly exclusively with cash was 'Keep the change.' People who didn't like carrying a bunch of loose change in their pocket could 'kill 2 birds with 1 stone' by ditching the coins and helping the waitress out.

People get used to it, then dependent on it...

 

[ThatDogDontHunt]

That's a common criticism, and very understandable. I have a personal theory that some of this may've taken hold dealing with waitstaff many years ago in light of some situational factors:

1.) Waitressing was thought to be rather low paying.
2.) Some chit chat between customer and waitperson was probably fairly common.
3.) A common saying way back when people were paying nearly exclusively with cash was 'Keep the change.' People who didn't like carrying a bunch of loose change in their pocket could 'kill 2 birds with 1 stone' by ditching the coins and helping the waitress out.

People get used to it, then dependent on it...

Do you mean this?

Trinkgeld - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

en.m.wiktionary.org

 

[drrich2]

Yes. Unfortunately, a synergy between the law of unintended consequences and the seeming human inability to let things well enough alone for long has brought us far from leaving a little spare change. Plus we largely pay with credit or debit cards.

 

[Blackcrusader]

I have travelled a lot more countries in SE Asia than those pathetic few you had listed.
There are 11 members in ASEAN and you have a long way to catch up.

I wrote there I had lived and worked. I have traveled to over 160 countries including all ASEAN members as part of my previous employment. Perhaps you should not be so quick to decide where I may or may not have traveled to.

In fact when it comes to showing some gratuity it is to my regular dive buddies when we go on our dive vacations together.

 

[Luca Brasi]

Recently had a Liveaboard captain tell us the normal tip is 15 to 20 percent of the full price. Do you agree