Scuba_Steve:Again Brian, you were not there, and I guarantee you since this too was not mentioned by myself yet, that this dive was planned in every facet you describe above by the student.
I expect a level of understanding from those reading this stuff that evidently some do not have. What I mean is, I expect those reading to already know that the dives are being planned after being taught how to do so.....what the heck do you think we were doing for 6hrs?
SAC's, time, depth, comm's, M/Level planning etc etc etc ad naseum. Not suprisingly, all new stuff to this diver which is why IMO you have to do the classroom before the diving, or it is just another paid, mostly useless, tour guide.
If I have to say this on every post, it really does show the level of ridiculously low standards here.
Again, you are looking at this as a one dive wonder, when I've already said it is to be taken as a whole course, an immersion in what it means to be AOW certified IMO. I really can't help anyone reading this if they don't understand the basics are done and pre-qualified before we hit the drink. How could the student manage these simple basics otherwise?
We're talking in circles now, with incorrect assumptions being made all over the place.
And no, I'm not going to spend 10hrs typing it out!
Regards
Steve, my reply was more directed towards sandjeep, who stated he wanted to be tricked and chewed out when he screws up.
In response to your reply to me...IMO, AOW is many times 5 (or 6, depending on agency) guided tours. The deep dive is done to show the student what narcosis feels like, and very little emphasis is put on planning, gas management, etc. Additionally, SAC rates, etc are not required learning in the AOW classes.
Last month, an instructor here in Seattle had 2 actual OOA's on the SAME DIVE on the deep dive in an Advanced Class. I'm sorry if you feel that there are "ridiculously low standards here", but with the way many AOW's are taught, I think it's understandable for someone to be a little skeptical when an instructor talks about 'luring' a student (again, I understand your reasoning) deeper than the plan on a deep dive, but hasn't stated what is discussed and taught prior to the dive.
One instructor may consider "We are going to go to 100' and have you do some math on this slate to show you how narc'd you are. Remember to watch your gauge closely because you will go through your air faster..." as a perfectly acceptable briefing. That, in my experience, is unfortunately quite common.
I'm sorry if you feel I don't have your "expected level of understanding" because I don't just automatically assume that you teach the stuff I listed in my post. You evidently do teach those, and I applaud you for it. Unfortunately, that is not the norm, in my experience.
Brian