I was looking at getting the Innovative Max Force Retractor With Stainless Steel Carabiner Connector from http://diversdiscount.com/resources/frameset-cat.asp?cat=Clips+and+Reels to attach my console to my BC. Does anyone know how big (long) this is? I'm looking to get a retractor to keep my console close and not hang all over, I'd hate to get this, and the console still be hanging pretty far off my body.
Innovative Max Force Retractor With Stainless Steel Carabiner Connector
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I don't know how long it is but I would suggest you get the one with the brass clip instead of the caribiner
TCB
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Many divers consider carabiners to be potential entaglement hazards, since they can be engaged without any action by the diver. For example, you could be swimming along and brush against a fishing line, net, etc and the carabiner could clip on without your knowledge. Using bolt snaps avoids this potential problem and they are just as easy to connect and disconnect.
Sorry...I should have given you a reason. Yes, as TCB stated, the carbiner will open with just a little pressure, such as fishing line. With the bolt snap you have to intentionally open it. And it's not any harder to use. In fact, I think it's easier because that little hook at the top of the caribiner can snag your D-ring when you're trying to remove it.
lil_chure,
no worries on that stainless steel carabiner, it takes so much strength to clip it onto the BC that I seriously doubt it can be engaged onto a fishline brushby. I have one and it is sure tough to engage. On the bright side, you can be sure it'll never open or come off in a dive. I clip it to my shoulder D-ring.
With regards to bolt snaps, never use brass ones. They'll sharpen upon usage and make you a shark attractor fast. Use the stainless steel ones.
no worries on that stainless steel carabiner, it takes so much strength to clip it onto the BC that I seriously doubt it can be engaged onto a fishline brushby. I have one and it is sure tough to engage. On the bright side, you can be sure it'll never open or come off in a dive. I clip it to my shoulder D-ring.
With regards to bolt snaps, never use brass ones. They'll sharpen upon usage and make you a shark attractor fast. Use the stainless steel ones.
Lil Chure,
Dee and TCB are right. Get the one with the bolt-snap.
The rule in Public Safety Diving, for instance, is: "No suicide clips!" That is to say, no devices with swinging gates, like the spring-loaded gate on this carabiner.
No matter how strong the spring is, something WILL come along and slide its way in there, neatly attaching you to whatever it is. Trust me on that one. I did not believe it until it happened to me.
The brass bolt-snaps work quite well. We use them in technical diving, but Edwin is correct in that SS is better, mostly for its resistance to corrosion.
Dee and TCB are right. Get the one with the bolt-snap.
The rule in Public Safety Diving, for instance, is: "No suicide clips!" That is to say, no devices with swinging gates, like the spring-loaded gate on this carabiner.
No matter how strong the spring is, something WILL come along and slide its way in there, neatly attaching you to whatever it is. Trust me on that one. I did not believe it until it happened to me.
The brass bolt-snaps work quite well. We use them in technical diving, but Edwin is correct in that SS is better, mostly for its resistance to corrosion.
Drew1
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i have an underwater camera and i attatch it to my bc's d ring with a locking carabiner. its the same thing as a regular one but it has a twist thing so if the bar gets pushed, the carabiner will not disconnect from the d ring
DI_Guy
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I have a retractor like the one "lil chure" mentioned. It doesn't really have a carabiner as we normally know them. It takes a lot of force to open it and I don't think it poses an entanglement hazzard. Have a close look at it on the link that "lil chure" attached.
I don't use carabiners for the exact reason that previous posters mentioned. Too dangerous.
I don't use carabiners for the exact reason that previous posters mentioned. Too dangerous.
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