Incident in Cebu - Sharing info (Diveassure)

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Hi,

I would like to share my experience during my last trip to Cebu. I will try to make it short, and as conciese as possible. Before that, I want to split this post in two parts: Part 1 is the experience in Cebu getting the treatment done. Part 2 is the claim with Diveassure.

Part 1:

I'm there for a CCR training (45m trimix), is the 4th day and at the end of the dive I'm not feeling great but I keep doing my thing. I skip the details but basically after arriving to a restaurant for dinner I feel vertigo and I cannot stand by myself (after further assesment, is probably caused by dehydration and fatigue).

The restaurant helped calling a hospital for an ambulance. They confirmed, but after a while they said they cannot send the ambulance. I ended up going to the hospital by taxi.

The first hospital did not have a chamber (expected, as was the nearest hospital to the restaurant), but they did not wanted to provide me O2 although I told them I probably had DCS. They send me to another hospital, where there was supposed to be a chamber. The first hospital could not arrange an ambulance, but was the waiter from the restaurant (that come with us) that had a friend running the ambulance business that arranged it for me (can you belive that?). When I got into the ambulance they asked about the O2 and I told them the situation. They gave me O2 during the ride.

We arrived to the second hospital, where the first hospital was supposed to call and alert them about my arrival. Apparently, they had no notice of my arrival and 'their chamber was not for medical use'. Why there is a chamber in a hospital, if not for medical use ? This is like 10pm already.

They direct us to a third hospital (Cebu Doctor's University Hospital), we get there and first they don't want to take me in because the chamber does not operate until 9am ... I told them I need to be at least assesed by a doctor, took a while back and forth, finally they took me in and spent the night there. Treated for 2 sessions and done. The hyperbaric doctor told me : 'this is the only hyperbaric chamber with an hyperbaric doctor in the whole Cebu Island' (just sharing, not sure if is true or not). And 'DAN insurance is not accepted in this hospital because of some previous dispute'. I had 'Diveassure', and basically I paid all up front.

Part 2:

I called Diveassure from the restaurant just after the vertigo episode happened. They picked up the phone, but they were not very helpfull, basically they told me go to the hospital and get all the receipts. I had a few more calls during the following days and was a similar experience. They did not tell me go to this hospital or guide me in any way. Just sharing, as some people may want a bit more of caring in this kind of situation.

Back home, the claim process. The start is simple, they send you a form and ask the receipts. That's OK, but from that moment, It has been 3 times I have been asked to provide the receipts and travel itinerary and the amount claimed. Seems they have some subsidiary companies handling the claims and they keep on delaying the reimbursment. My incident was back in December 2022, 28th. The claim was submitted mid January and I'm still waiting the money. Today was the last time I got an emal requesting the same stuff again.

Luckily, this was not a massive medical expense, but I can imagine the trouble for a bigger amount in some other country.

Just sharing,

jordi
 
back in December 2023, 28th
You may mean 2022 as December 2023 is ten months in the future. Glad you're ok and sorry about the insurance runaround.
 
Right, my bad. Was 2022 of course. The cost was around 2500USD, including a night in the hospital, some tests and 2 sessions in the hyperbaric chamber.
 
Back home, the claim process. The start is simple, they send you a form and ask the receipts. That's OK, but from that moment, It has been 3 times I have been asked to provide the receipts and travel itinerary and the amount claimed. Seems they have some subsidiary companies handling the claims and they keep on delaying the reimbursment. My incident was back in December 2022, 28th. The claim was submitted mid January and I'm still waiting the money. Today was the last time I got an emal requesting the same stuff again.
Do you have some way to phone Diveassure without accruing more expenses? I'd want to talk with them personally, complain about the poor treatment at the time of the incident as well the claims process, and hope to get someone to assist you there.
 
OK This is for future reference for those diving in Cebu and other areas.



Dr Michael Perez
Course Director/Instructor Trainer at SDI TDI ERDI PFI
Master Scuba Diver Trainer at PADI
Instructor at NAUI
Diving Physician at Batangas Hyperbaric Medicine and Wound Healing Center
Studied Department of Military Sciences Army R.O.T.C at University of Santo Tomas


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OK This is for future reference for those diving in Cebu and other areas.



Dr Michael Perez
Course Director/Instructor Trainer at SDI TDI ERDI PFI
Master Scuba Diver Trainer at PADI
Instructor at NAUI
Diving Physician at Batangas Hyperbaric Medicine and Wound Healing Center
Studied Department of Military Sciences Army R.O.T.C at University of Santo Tomas


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It never fails to amaze me just how ubiquitous American coffee shops / brands are around the world.

Thank you, Michael, for all your input and help here on ScubaBoard. You and @Centrals are sort of my go-to fonts of knowledge for SEA.
 

DiveAssure is a registered member here. I wonder if they would comment about your problems. I'll ask.​

 
Hi,

I would like to share my experience during my last trip to Cebu. I will try to make it short, and as conciese as possible. Before that, I want to split this post in two parts: Part 1 is the experience in Cebu getting the treatment done. Part 2 is the claim with Diveassure.

Part 1:

I'm there for a CCR training (45m trimix), is the 4th day and at the end of the dive I'm not feeling great but I keep doing my thing. I skip the details but basically after arriving to a restaurant for dinner I feel vertigo and I cannot stand by myself (after further assesment, is probably caused by dehydration and fatigue).

The restaurant helped calling a hospital for an ambulance. They confirmed, but after a while they said they cannot send the ambulance. I ended up going to the hospital by taxi.

The first hospital did not have a chamber (expected, as was the nearest hospital to the restaurant), but they did not wanted to provide me O2 although I told them I probably had DCS. They send me to another hospital, where there was supposed to be a chamber. The first hospital could not arrange an ambulance, but was the waiter from the restaurant (that come with us) that had a friend running the ambulance business that arranged it for me (can you belive that?). When I got into the ambulance they asked about the O2 and I told them the situation. They gave me O2 during the ride.

We arrived to the second hospital, where the first hospital was supposed to call and alert them about my arrival. Apparently, they had no notice of my arrival and 'their chamber was not for medical use'. Why there is a chamber in a hospital, if not for medical use ? This is like 10pm already.

They direct us to a third hospital (Cebu Doctor's University Hospital), we get there and first they don't want to take me in because the chamber does not operate until 9am ... I told them I need to be at least assesed by a doctor, took a while back and forth, finally they took me in and spent the night there. Treated for 2 sessions and done. The hyperbaric doctor told me : 'this is the only hyperbaric chamber with an hyperbaric doctor in the whole Cebu Island' (just sharing, not sure if is true or not). And 'DAN insurance is not accepted in this hospital because of some previous dispute'. I had 'Diveassure', and basically I paid all up front.

Part 2:

I called Diveassure from the restaurant just after the vertigo episode happened. They picked up the phone, but they were not very helpfull, basically they told me go to the hospital and get all the receipts. I had a few more calls during the following days and was a similar experience. They did not tell me go to this hospital or guide me in any way. Just sharing, as some people may want a bit more of caring in this kind of situation.

Back home, the claim process. The start is simple, they send you a form and ask the receipts. That's OK, but from that moment, It has been 3 times I have been asked to provide the receipts and travel itinerary and the amount claimed. Seems they have some subsidiary companies handling the claims and they keep on delaying the reimbursment. My incident was back in December 2022, 28th. The claim was submitted mid January and I'm still waiting the money. Today was the last time I got an emal requesting the same stuff again.

Luckily, this was not a massive medical expense, but I can imagine the trouble for a bigger amount in some other country.

Just sharing,

jordi

Sounds like a typical insurance company's attitude: Payment is a last ditch emergency procedure, only when they have exhausted every avenue to show you screwed up, and they aren't liable.
 
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