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I'm mad at Dive-aholic

Discussion in 'Sidemount Diving' started by TSandM, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Jax

    Jax Deplorable American ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Super idea! CA is a lot closer than FL is . . . :D
     
  2. DaleC

    DaleC Solo Diver

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    Fascinating discussion. I can't recall how many times I've gotten the old "sounds like an equipment solution to a skills problem" b_llsh_t when trying something different but I guess that's all changed now. Diving really is about having the freedom to try and do whatever makes you happy (huh). I'm still not entirely convinced though that backmounted twin tanks with an isolation manifold isn't the [-]only[/-] optimal configuration and that other non standardized configurations will make my diving more safe and FUN!
     
  3. ScubaFeenD

    ScubaFeenD Marine Scientist

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    Kind of takes the "explorers" out of GUE, huh? Maybe rename it GU....Well I cant think of anything now.

    I think there is no reason not to undertake incorporation of SM. I dont do it now, but I am interested, and a well tested, workable, standardized method would be intriguing.

    Why, exactly, do you think the only reason to dive SM is because of old arthritic knees? Just because it works well for that affliction, doesn't mean that is the only reason it is good.
     
  4. ScubaFeenD

    ScubaFeenD Marine Scientist

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    Sounds stubborn and last century. I think there is a serious difference between physical disability limiting your ability to dive, and allowing people to learn an alternative and equally valid way to dive. I mean, you have to ask the question of why they wont teach team sidemount, considering their ranks consist of such highly qualified instructors and divers. Why not respond to the memberships desire to learn more.

    GUE is great, and I love learning the things that Wakulla divers have to share through the classes, but if they continue the "you dont need to know what we dont think you need to know" mentality they will lose a lot of ground eventually, and the steam they built up to revolutionize the dive industry might be lost.
     
  5. OneBrightGator

    OneBrightGator Instructor, Scuba

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    Let's just hope if we see a GUE/UTD movement into sidemount we can get the benefits and keep the bullsnot out.
     
  6. HenrikBP

    HenrikBP Solo Diver

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    As far as I've heard in personal conversations and read on SB (won't name names and can't find the thread, so you can discount this if you like) the Wakulla divers at times do deco in a side mount type set-up because it makes it easier to switch bottles for long deco hangs. I may be entirely wrong about this though ...

    As for incorporating it into the GUE curriculum, I'm happy that GUE doesn't just jump on the "band wagon" when gear or practice becomes popular. It seems to me that the changes that *are* made - within the GUE system - come about after requests for change *as well as* careful consideration and extensive testing in order to make sure these changes are actual improvements. I personally see that as a good thing, while I understand that it may make the organization seem stagnant.

    I would be very surprised if GUE were not looking into side mount options and how it might fit the system. But I don't see them including it in the curriculum and coming out with gear for it until they're absolutely certain it adds anything to what they already have and does so safely and in compliance with the system.

    Henrik
     
  7. Scott L

    Scott L Solo Diver

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    They are numerous facets of scuba diving for which GUE does not provide training. SM diving is simply another entry added to the list. A good percentage of our area's experienced divers are spearfishman. They are among the world's best and most have never heard of GUE. Why are so many here demanding their involvement with the SM discipline?

    TDI announced a few months ago that a different cylinder configuration does not change anything with regard to dive planning and execution. No one is jumping down their throats or IANTD's for their silence...
     
  8. Jax

    Jax Deplorable American ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I don't think anyone is demanding anything, Scott; just a suggestion that those disciples of DIR who learn to appreciate sidemount could carry the water back to GUE.
     
  9. Kevin Carlisle

    Kevin Carlisle Contributor

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    I hope they don't embrace it. Let them keep diving the same old caves over and over.
     
  10. Jax

    Jax Deplorable American ScubaBoard Supporter

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    :snicker:
     

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