I'm mad at Dive-aholic

[Cave Diver]

1. One would assume that DIR would want to continue to swell its ranks.
2. It's way more likely people will give up BM to go SM, but probably not too many going the other way.

Ergo - better to assimilate the sidemount than to watch sidemount leach your population away.

Lastly, I think that as more DIR people tout the benefits of sidemount, the DIR folks will themselves demand sidemount be standardized and brought under their system.

I see...

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

I bet GI just fell off his rocker, there's been a disturbance in the force?

 

[DwayneJ]

Help me out - DIR is a unified approach to team, planning, process and gear specific - Correct? Diving Side Mount or Diving Rebreather technically is not DIR from a gear perspective but assuming the team shares common gear (SM or Rebreathers), the team is following the spirit of DIR?

Dwayne

 

[LiteHedded]

1. One would assume that DIR would want to continue to swell its ranks.
2. It's way more likely people will give up BM to go SM, but probably not too many going the other way.

Ergo - better to assimilate the sidemount than to watch sidemount leach your population away.

Lastly, I think that as more DIR people tout the benefits of sidemount, the DIR folks will themselves demand sidemount be standardized and brought under their system.

I don't think any of these things matter all that much to any of the decision makers at GUE.

but gue is certainly aware of sidemount.

 

[Rainer]

Help me out - DIR is both team, planning, process and gear specific - Correct? Diving Side Mount or Diving Rebreather technically is not DIR from a gear perspective but assuming the team shares common gear (SM or Rebreathers), the team is following the spirit of DIR?

Dwayne

If our team shares common gear consisting of a single AL80 filled with air and does a dive to 200' do you think that's DIR?

DIR goes WELL beyond common gear and procedures...

 

[Rainer]

In this case, one would be wrong.

I don't think you have much sense of what DIR is.

1. One would assume that DIR would want to continue to swell its ranks.
2. It's way more likely people will give up BM to go SM, but probably not too many going the other way.

Ergo - better to assimilate the sidemount than to watch sidemount leach your population away.

Lastly, I think that as more DIR people tout the benefits of sidemount, the DIR folks will themselves demand sidemount be standardized and brought under their system.

 

[DwayneJ]

If our team shares common gear consisting of a single AL80 filled with air and does a dive to 200' do you think that's DIR?

Of course not.

DIR goes WELL beyond common gear and procedures...

Thanks for the clarification.

Since you are here, do you dive side mount? Just a lurker? Any interest in side mount? Do you do routine searches on "DIR"? The only reason I ask is in more than 500 messages you have posted, you are responding to a discussion in the Side Mount forum?

Appears I am destined to follow the UTD Tech course stream.

Dwayne

 

[Jax]

In this case, one would be wrong.

I don't think you have much sense of what DIR is.

Then how about instead of snarking how wrong I am, how about instead explaining how or why?


I seemed to have gotten the idea that rebreathers had been accepted as part of the DIR gear. Is that also incorrect?


Lastly, your comments lead one to believe that the DIR mindset will not pick up and assimilate new rigs . . . Is DIR indeed trapped in "We've always done it that way." ?

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Help me out - DIR is both team, planning, process and gear specific - Correct? Diving Side Mount or Diving Rebreather technically is not DIR from a gear perspective but assuming the team shares common gear (SM or Rebreathers), the team is following the spirit of DIR?

Dwayne

The "spirit" of DIR includes team, planning, process AND gear ... one cannot pick and choose and still be DIR. It's an "all or nothing" proposition ... kinda like being pregnant.

I don't think any of these things matter all that much to any of the decision makers at GUE.

but gue is certainly aware of sidemount.

I've heard several GUE instructors posit that you choose gear appropriate to the dive you're planning to do. So what happens if the dive plan involves going someplace you can't get to in backmount?

In this case, one would be wrong.

I don't think you have much sense of what DIR is.

I'm not convinced that she's entirely wrong. DIR has never appealed to the masses, nor has that ever been a goal ... but it has also never been as hide-bound as some people believe. Over the past decade I've seen several shifts in thinking with respect to gear and approach. No system can remain static in a dynamic world ... that's the path to extinction.

As SM broadens its appeal to the diving community, it needs to develop some standards and best-practices. The agencies promoting the DIR approach are particularly well-positioned to at least examine whether this technique could be used within the constraints of their system, and in so doing become an important factor in developing those standards.

Frankly, I'd trust them to do a much better job at it than the recreational agencies.

SM is just a tool ... and like any tool there are better and worse ways to use it. It isn't inherently "not" DIR ... it's just that none of the DIR proponents have as yet proposed a way that it could be appropriately used within the tenets of the DIR system. At some point, I think that will probably happen ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[DwayneJ]

The "spirit" of DIR includes team, planning, process AND gear ... one cannot pick and choose and still be DIR. It's an "all or nothing" proposition ... kinda like being pregnant.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Thanks, I knew that but did not clarify.

Dwayne