If you have to ask, you're not ready to solo......?

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I have had a number of thoughts about the pros and cons of solo diving lately. I just finished Bernie Chowdhury's The Last Dive, and I am reading Robert Kurson's Shadow Divers. Both reference solo diving in rather extreme conditions. I am not a tech diver, and I have never been in those conditions, but it makes me wonder about my own recreational diving experiences.

Kurson says many deep wreck divers prefer to solo, feeling that a buddy is more likely to kill them than save them. He gives an example of a man who panicked in a wreck and nearly killed two buddies who tried to save him. He gives another example of a man who could hear the thrashing panic of an entangled diver in a wreck. He just left him to die, figuring it was too dangerous to help.

The highly experienced, very expert Chowdhury waxes eloquent on the beauty of solo diving. He himself was solo diving when, bady narced, he made a couple of bad decisions that left him almost out of air, nowhere near his deco tanks, and owing about 1 1/2 hours of deco. His description of the resulting DCS near-death experience is powerful. He talks about how better equipment (like a full face mask with communication gear) might have saved him, but he never considers that a buddy might have made the dive nearly routine for him by sharing the deco air and making a quick surface to get more tanks.

Both books reference the exploration of the U-Boat in which Chris and Chrissy Rouse died. Chrissy got entangled in the U-Boat, and Chris got him out. They were disoriented on leaving and could not find their deco bottles. Both died of DCS. Some argue that Chrissy caused Chris's death, since Chris died trying to save his son. Others point out that Chris did successfully save his son from cetain death in the entanglement, and they would have had a routine return to the surface if they had not lost their deco tanks. Did the buddy system help or hurt there?

Personally, as the husband of a non-diving wife, I frequently find myself with a "might as well be solo" buddy on vacations, and I have sometimes in frustration set out on my own. On a recent dive trip, I watched in envy as several other divers solo-ed while I went out with insta-buddies who were not only poor divers, they were arrogantly poor. (Explanation--near beginning divers with terrible SAC rates, they were clearly and openly resentful that theyDM stuck me with them. Gosh, I was happy to come to the surface with 2/3 of my tank full; hope I didn't kill their dives too badly.)
 
scubadiverkarl:
I haven't seen anyone mention being trained as a solo diver. I took a special course for it. There are alot of things a new diver wouldn't even know that they don't know. The buddy system was designed to help in case you got in trouble. Solo diving requires special training and equipment so you can "rescue" yourself.

There is no one I'd trust to train me in solo diving. In fact, I don't believe it is possible to train someone to dive solo. A new diver shouldn't even be considering the concept.

Solo diving also requires a mind set that's not entirely consistent with running down to the local shop where the instructor has less experience than you to pay him to teach you something you know better than he knows.
 
Walter:
There is no one I'd trust to train me in solo diving. In fact, I don't believe it is possible to train someone to dive solo. A new diver shouldn't even be considering the concept.

Solo diving also requires a mind set that's not entirely consistent with running down to the local shop where the instructor has less experience than you to pay him to teach you something you know better than he knows.

My feeling exactly. Solo diving is more about the mental than the physical. All the extra redundancy in the world will not save you from bad decision making.
 
Walter:
BTW, did you make that vintage dive on the Oriskany?
Not yet. Hopefully later this year.
 
Walter:
There is no one I'd trust to train me in solo diving. In fact, I don't believe it is possible to train someone to dive solo. A new diver shouldn't even be considering the concept.

Solo diving also requires a mind set that's not entirely consistent with running down to the local shop where the instructor has less experience than you to pay him to teach you something you know better than he knows.
What is so hard to understand about this?

And the Captain's statement about equipment is another true statement.

How have we managed to live this long using the KISS system?

Simple process. You either have it or you don't and all the cards in the world will not qualify someone to go solo.

Gary D.
 
You brought up so many good points, boulderjohn ( as did Walter and Catherine and really most of this thread has been a great read.) I took a class in emergency dive procedures at a hyperbaric chamber ( a week of classroom...no bubble blowing...just books) and the accident analysis segments left me believing that a buddy....ESPECIALLY an insta-buddy...is just as likely to kill you as save you. The exception to that is probably parent/child...I know for my children I would give my last breath. I think the Rouse's story highlights that as well. An instabuddy? I know I would try and help in every way possible but when it came down to who to save (them or ME)...if he/she made the bad decision that brought about the cascade of events leading the their impending accident...I think I would accept that, save myself, and be able to look in the mirror and believe that I did the best I could. I don't think that makes me a bad buddy...just a realistic one. :blinking: And if someone thinks that makes me a bad buddy...well...I guess I'll just dive alone.
 
I wonder if there is way to find statistics on injuries or deaths comparing solo diving and diving with a buddy?
 
RJTY:
I wonder if there is way to find statistics on injuries or deaths comparing solo diving and diving with a buddy?
Seems like that may be part of the data collected by DAN when they do their on-going accident research. How one would break that down and analyze it...I'm not sure.
 
I've learned quite a bit following this thread. While I recognize that I am no where near experienced enough to consider solo diving at this point but it is something I can see doing in the future. I am very used to being solo in situations where rules say you shouldn't be (esp. as a female): hiking, traveling in Third World countries--both at the same time. Let me say also that the only time I've had to use a sheriff's helicopter is when I was hiking with someone else.

As for asking if you are ready, if you have to ask you probably aren't; I get that. Logically I know I am not experienced enough but my natural instincts are to just go ahead and do it. I don't and I follow the logic here but feel I may be ready mentally long before I am ready experientially and I keep that in check. I mentioned it to my husband once and let's just say that subject won't be coming up again any time soon.

I know it isn't saying "I have X number of dives so now I can solo" My guess would be that that there more divers than not who have hundreds of dives and wouldn't want to solo. I don't blame them. It's a very personal thing.

As someone who is looking forward to the responsibilities and freedoms of diving solo in the future what training is available, keeping im mind the previous posts on training, or lack thereof. Is it just taking every course available?
 

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