i tried to fly out today and i ended up being bent

[the Hermit]

It sounds like you will recover 100% and I am glad for you.

Thanks for sharing - its the honest close call discussions I find most beneficial. Im aggressive, in good shape, and lucky - and its threads like this that help me judge myself.

Wish you lots of great dives, in many awesome places...

 

[Blastman4444]

I'm still not 100% today I felt some tingling in my fingers and I get weak sometimes but seems to pass. Just looked at my primary insurance United Health Care website so far $29.5k in bills $18599 for the medical air transport helicopter ride. Funny how you see the hospital charged $4500 the contracted insurance paid them $1200 US health care system at it's best.

 

[DandyDon]

I'm still not 100% today I felt some tingling in my fingers and I get weak sometimes but seems to pass. Just looked at my primary insurance United Health Care website so far $29.5k in bills $18599 for the medical air transport helicopter ride. Funny how you see the hospital charged $4500 the contracted insurance paid them $1200 US health care system at it's best.

I'm a little confused by your punctuation. I guess your DAN insurance should pay the rest. Hope you enjoy a full recovery in time.

 

[Blastman4444]

I actually didn't have any Dan insurance when I renewed DAN before our trip because we basically hadn't dived in a year for what ever reason only renewed my membership not the insurance I thought I had selected the basic insurance. My post I'm explaining the cost that they are trying to bill my primary insurance company United Health Care which I have though my employer. I already phoned United Health Care they are going to pay for everything except $250 deductible St Mary's is a UHC network provider, so I'm lucky I have good insurance and it happened in Florida. I'm just trying to point out what one might have to pay if they didn't have good insurance including and DAN insurance. I have now purchased the top insurance with DAN it might have helped with some of the other bills like hotels and things while we had to stay an extra if I had it.

 

[daniel1948]

Er ... digitalis doesn't work? News to me ... I guess I missed the memo.

Digitalis is not homeopathic. Homeopathy is when they take a substance known to cause a symptom, and dilute it until the chances of finding a single molecule of the original substance in a swimming pool full of the "remedy" are about a million to one against, and they claim that the "essence" of the original substance remains in the diluted "remedy" and they claim that will cure the symptom that the original substance would cause.

I think the inventor of homeopathy was unaware of the concept of atoms and molecules. Or else he subscribed to some sort of spiritual notion of materials. In his defense, homeopathy was invented at a time when doctors were more likely to kill you than cure you, and doing nothing at all (homeopathy) was better than what doctors did.

Many herbs have active effects, some beneficial, others not. Some poorly informed people imagine that "natural" means safe. I like to point out that poison ivy, curare, cobra venom, and Portuguese Man-o'-war are all 100% natural.

 

[Thalassamania]

I'm not advocating for homeopathy, but Foxglove does fit their model. Take a lot, it'll kill you, take a dilution ... that's called digitalis.

 

[ajtoady]

I don't know if this was posted or the comment was made, Shouldn't you always do your deepest dive first? I hope you fully recover and to all who posted I have been inspired to get the DAN insurance post haste. I realize I am a new diver compared to some but it still boils down to, all the charts and tables in the world don't always protect the "right individual". There are exceptions to every rule. Percentages are just that, percentages. I could jump off of the Empire State building and survive. I doubt it but it is remotely feasible.

 

[mooney]

I don't know what altitude they throttle back? The Jet Stream blows from west to east, besides wandering all over the continent, so that was not accurate at all - but the jets are more efficient at altitude yes. Your cabin was pressurized tho so whatever was happening must have cascaded with take off, whatever the pressure. Hope you're feeling well now.
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a little late to the party but....
if a jet is "throttling back" on climbout it is only doing it because it is under 10,000 feet, gets a leveloff by ATC, and has to pull the power back to stay under the 250 knot speed limit below 10,000 feet. Any other time a jet climbs (normal conditions 99% of the time) it is a balls-to-the-wall climb at 93-97% of thrust...and at 10,000 feet on climbout the cabin altitude is less than 2500 feet.

 

[daniel1948]

I'm not advocating for homeopathy, but Foxglove does fit their model. Take a lot, it'll kill you, take a dilution ... that's called digitalis.

That's not what homeopathy is. It's not merely "a lot is bad, a dilution is good." It is, quite specifically, a dilution so great that none of the original substance can possibly remain, under the clearly false belief that substances leave behind an "essence" after every atom or molecule of the original is gone, and that this "essence" has the opposite effect of the substance itself.

If it was merely "a lot is bad, a dilution is good" it would apply to virtually every drug we use, whether natural or synthetic.

 

[Blastman4444]

I don't know if this was posted or the comment was made, Shouldn't you always do your deepest dive first? I hope you fully recover and to all who posted I have been inspired to get the DAN insurance post haste. I realize I am a new diver compared to some but it still boils down to, all the charts and tables in the world don't always protect the "right individual". There are exceptions to every rule. Percentages are just that, percentages. I could jump off of the Empire State building and survive. I doubt it but it is remotely feasible.

Agreed get DAN insurance, but lucky for me my primary is paying it all since then my primary has knocked down the costs quite a bit with there contracted fees the 18k bill for the decompression treatment were knocked down to 6k, but doesn't really matter I only had to pay $250 for it all my total medical bills thank god is only about $750 if I had DAN insurance that even might have been covered by them not sure they are considered a 2nd insurance so it might not cover deductibles. I can't see how they make any money, but I guess insurance companies run it all. The first dive is usually the deeper one a 2nd dive to a shallower depth means more time. My 2nd dive was aggressive I agree we had little time and it was pushed to the limit into the caution following the DM thinking he knows what he is doing wasn't that smart. I got the bill from the Browered County Sheriff rescue for the Helicopter ride to the hospital wasn't as much as I thought only $7900 for 50 mile ride unlucky for them they are in network with UHC insurance so I bet they knock that bill down to 2-3k. I'm almost 100% recovered now I still feel little tingling when I went to 3800 feet last week driving. I also have ringing in my left ear I hope that goes away.

a little late to the party but....
if a jet is "throttling back" on climbout it is only doing it because it is under 10,000 feet, gets a leveloff by ATC, and has to pull the power back to stay under the 250 knot speed limit below 10,000 feet. Any other time a jet climbs (normal conditions 99% of the time) it is a balls-to-the-wall climb at 93-97% of thrust...and at 10,000 feet on climbout the cabin altitude is less than 2500 feet.

If you look back though the pages here you find the link to flight tracker of my flight he did get to 25k feet so he probably was that high I'm sure it doesn't take long to get to 25k I was only guessing when I said 10k I had no idea until someone posted the flight tacker link to my flight. My flight was US airways left FLL to Phx at 7:10 am on 9/3/2011.