Hurricane Gustav

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Now that Gustav is gone and over with and folks are trying to get back to normal, I found this interesting...

Many of the evacuee's were bussed to Alabama, Mississippi, and other surrounding states to shelters set up by the states, often in gyms at state colleges.

Well while many of the evacuee's were thankfull for being transported to shelters, others complained and felt the need to trash the shelters......

Hazmat crews are now being called into clean up the gyms (shelters) at the cost of taxpayers. They are having to clean up items such as syringes, used condoms, soiled underwear.

Evaccuee's shoved Red Cross issued blankets down into toliets having to have Roto-Rooter called out in the middle of the night. Feces and blood and other fluids were smeared on the walls. Bus seats were ripped open. Cots and blankets were soiled with all kinds of stuff and had to be burned.


one shelter is having a hazmat crew come in and sanitize the facility at the cost of $25,000 to taxpayers. Another shelter the clean up bill has been listed at $20,000.


Like I said, I'm sure many of the evacuee's that were here were thankfull, but it's just a terrible shame that some of them felt they had to trash the place while they were here when others were extending a helping hand. what a shame.....

people like that should be drug out back and beaten with soap in a sock, better yet, they should have just stayed in their homes and been blown to kansas when the hurricane came in! thats just ridiculous!
 
During Hurricane Georges in 1998, the Superdome in New Orleans was used as a shelter by the Morial administration for people that didn't leave (evacuate). During the storm, the people there complained about everything including the food. I actually heard one of them getting interviewed saying they wanted steak. They were actually getting hot dogs and burgers for FREE. The instructions were for them to bring what they wanted to eat when they came to the dome. Some brought nothing. After the storm was over, anything that was not nailed down walked out of the dome with them. I never heard reports about the damage and theft cost, but there was clearly video by the local TV stations that showed the stuff in people's hands as they were walking out.

When Katrina approached, they knew that letting the people in the dome was a mistake from that past experience in Georges. Initially, they said that the dome would not be used, but when it became clear that people were not going to leave, that they were going to wait to be helped, they decided to open up the dome. Well, that's history. They trashed the dome again, WORSE than before! I haven't seen figures on damages, but it was in the millions, not $25000.

For this last storm, Gustav, there was absolutely no way they were going to allow people into the dome or the convention center in New Orleans. Those facilities were used as staging areas for recovery authorities and the national guard ONLY.

That being said, I feel sorry for those in other states who once again held out their helping hands only to have their faces slapped and their facilities trashed. Maybe Darwin should be allowed to do his work.



Well there were complaints about the food in the evacuee shelters here also. They interviewed evacuee's on the news who mostly only had complaints. Of course a few of them were positive interviews also.

What the evacuee's didn't mention was that the food that they were eating was costing them nothing. Free. And the people preparing it were mostly all volunteers who worked 12 hour days to prepare them 3 hot meals a day so they could bitch about it.

Like I said, I'm sure some were thankful, but it digusts me to see people whine about getting a handout or thinking they aren't getting their "fair share" of a handout. Especially when others are busting their asses to help them.


As for looting... I remember seeing the video of looting after Katrina, including two policemen/women in the store looting with the others....

When they had the big floods up in Iowa, when the leevie's broke. Did anyone here see the pictures of people looting all the stores up there like they did in Katrina? Nope? Neither did I.
 
EXTRA! EXTRA! ClayJar now has *electricity*!

After a valiant struggle with two of the three line fuses that connect our block with the grid, the wonderful fellows with J F Electric from Edwardsville, IL, successfully closed the circuits at about 6:15pm CDT yesterday and energized our lines (which now run across several new poles and through several new transformers).

It will be an indeterminate time until Cox decides that fixing our cable is worthwhile, so I'm still offline, but last night, I actually was able to do *laundry*! It was...

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...nice.
WELCOME BACK TO THE MODERN WORLD! Glad to things are starting a slow progress back to normal for you!

Caroyn:shark2:
Ps: There are no words to describe humanity, except there are times that it amazes me how disgusting people can be. For all the good there will always be the "filth" that must destroy what doesn't belong to them. Such a shame!
http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/122121091053770.xml&coll=1&thispage=1
 
They just restored my cable and internet access. I can now start getting back in the flow of things. (Now, all I need is to have my car back in ship shape... but who's counting? ;))
 
Well the final bill is in for our local shelter (at a coummunity college). this just in an article in our local paper.

After paying for all the items damaged/destroyed, the employee salaries, the HAZMAT team to come in and clean the "bodily fluids" smeared on the walls and floors, etc...

it cost $175,000 in clean up costs and to pay for equipment and salaries (of employees, security, etc) for the 300 evacuees to stay 5 nights in our shelter.

The HAZMAT cleanup fee was $25,000 alone. Plus other janatorial costs.

Hundreds of dollars of "Roto Rooter" costs to unclog plumbing where they tore up the blankets and flushed them down the toliets and stopped them up because they were "unhappy" with their shelter.

Now FEMA says it won't pay employee overtime costs either... so the college will have to "eat" those costs.


For $175,000 for 300 people for 5 nights, they could have put them all up in a place as nice as a Marriott, EACH IN THEIR OWN ROOM, and not destroyed our local college gym.

Based on $175,000 divided by 5 nights divided by 300 people = $116/night cost.

$116/night to sleep on a cot.


This doesn't include the FEMA cost to charter 6 buses to give them roundtrip travel and the repair to the buses where seats were soiled and torn.

Of course if we'd put them in the Marriott or any other hotel, they would have just torn it up and cost the taxpayer more money in the long run.

I just can't understand how people in "need" can be so ungrateful when someone else helps them and then they try to "get even" by destorying the place for how they perceive they were "treated".
 
Although the total population runs the gamut between the extremes, there are two "sides" that stand out when I look at situations such as the hurricanes. On the one side are people like those on our block.

Halfway up the block, a large oak had fallen, completely blocking the street. Just north of my driveway, a pecan had fallen, also blocking the street. Before Gustav had even cleared out (Why waste a cool, breezy late afternoon?), the guy with the oak had a chainsaw out. We all converged on the sound and got to work, and not one of us was asked. It was just the right thing to do.

In less than an hour, we had the entire tree sliced, diced, collected, and piled up out of the road. Then the entire group of us walked down the block to our pecan and made quick work of it. (It was quite a bit smaller than the recently majestic oak.) Making a few sorties into side yards to carry off some big branches that had, for the most part, barely missed houses was lagniappe.

Anyway, the storm hadn't even completely passed, and we'd already cleared the street. Other streets around town were still blocked for days or more as people waited for someone to help. My brother actually tracked down a chainsaw and spent a day clearing other streets in the subdivision. Why not make things a little better if you have the opportunity, eh? I kept a generator running to keep food from spoiling (my sisters' families brought all their perishables), and I made ice as fast as possible for those without. (Ice was among the hardest commodities to come by.)

Anyway, we are the people who just roll with what comes, work for the best, and appreciate the little things (like someone bringing a bin of ice when you've been craving a Diet Coke with ice for a week). On the other hand, you have the ungrateful few who show up extremely disproportionately in the news (and as you note, on the bottom line).

If only the news covered the good guys, too. I dare say *we* suffered more, but you're not going to hear us whining about it. (Not to say we won't ever complain, and FEMA *is* a four-letter F-word to many around here, but you vent, you deal with it, and you move on.)
 
Clay, it was like that during Katrina. If the news would have focused on ALL the good that was going on around them INSTEAD of all the horrible things, I think it would have been better for us all. What you and your neighbors did for each other is what I have seen. Compassion for one another. Because of Gus, I've now met more of my neighbors! Focus on the positive.:D
 

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