How do you setup your primary and secondary regulators/hoses for recreational?

[TMHeimer]

I'm pretty standard. I attached a bungee cord on the primary mouthpiece. But the cord goes around my head (hood), so it actually holds the mouthpiece in my mouth should I ever go unconscious for any reason. Kind of a make shift fullface mask without the cost. Prior to that I just let it dangle until in my mouth. For the octo, it's attached to a D ring on my right side. Since almost all of my dives are solo, I also tuck it under a strap high up on my chest. This keeps it out of a sandy bottom (I am always very close to the bottom shell collecting). The rare time I use the pony, I have the mouthpiece on a clothesline size rope around my neck for easy access and the pony valve on (another thread).

 

[Diving Dubai]

I find no compelling reason for a 7' hose in OW with no overheads or Deco. Both my primary and my secondary are on 40" My secondary is on a rubber necklace around my neck and so can be removed by a quick pull.

Excluding a GUE or other experienced and tech trained diver who has had primary donate drilled into them, I believe that a true OOA diver will be an unpredictable beast. I will brief which ever method my buddy is trained with, but would always anticipate the unexpected. They can snatch whatever reg they want and it will be okay

I am set up to donate my primary which will be on a 7 foot long hose. My secondary is for me and I wear that in an "octo" necklace.

I feel that in an air-share situation, you need to have enough hose length to swim horizontally. This recreational 39 inch short hose is a huge compromise. Try swimming a length of the pool while air sharing and it wont be the most comfortable experience.

People think that long hose is for overheads but short hose appears to be a major safety compromise in open water.

I disagree. I have practiced both bringing a buddy up on my Alternate, and air sharing using my primary, both from 20m. When I say practiced, my instructors would have received Oscars for acting and didn't pull any punches for the assessments With a 40" I can bring us both up through a mid water in the ocean with currents Both my regs have swivels so they can be used side by side or face to face.

A calm diver is easy, I wouldn't want a panicking diver on a 7' I want them close where I can control them. I would be shooting a bag first and then maybe heading for the anchor line (but then in my location we always come up under a bag apart from very, very rare conditions where we drop an anchor

I happen to prefer my primary coming under my right arm and my secondary under my left. It gives me (and my buddy) options

You scenario is flawed the fact that a "safety stop" is not required. If you are in open water and lose air and your buddy has a 40" hose to share you simply go to the surface. You will not be doing "safety stops" when you are dealing with an OOA diver.

I disagree with this also (ish) If it's a true diver panicking, then sure, you're going to the surface, but you are "trying" to control the ascent. After all you don't want to be hauled up too quickly yourself. Certainly you want to get this diver to the surface and establish positive buoyancy.

However if you've gained control and calmed the diver, then there is no reason not to carry out the SS (assuming you have the gas)

I just ordered bp/w, 2 regulators and pressure gauge. I'm wondering how do you all run your primary and secondary regulators.

I would suggest for the moment following the set up you trained with - given you've ordered all new equipment, get used the the equipment with the standard configuration and then work out if you feel for your type of diving another method is best.

Getting used to a BPW and a strange hose configuration all at once maybe too much - 1 step at a time is my advice for what its worth

 

[Freewillow]

Rather, out of funds to travel to dive all the time.

Cold water diving isn't that crazy. Just get the right gear and learn to use it properly. It ain't rocket science, and it costs less than one warm water trip.

I was just pulling your legs, my dear Norvegian friend

 

[Patoux01]

There's only 7' if you give the 7'...

 

[Diving Dubai]

Cold water diving isn't that crazy. Just get the right gear and learn to use it properly. It ain't rocket science, and it costs less than one warm water trip.

I dunno, One warm water trip for me uses about 70 litres (18 US gallons) of fuel in my uneconomical V8 truck and costs about 20 Euro ($21 USD)

 

[Freewillow]

I find no compelling reason for a 7' hose in OW with no overheads or Deco.

I agree with it. Having said this I am diving with a long hose and I find it very usefull. I am always diving with my spouse. We have the same SAC and we do light deco dives when necessary. My wife has a bad back, so she is taking a 12L while I take a 15L tank.

Let's take the example of a dive in the Maldives, looking for pelagic. The typical dive is to go down and stay, fixed on a hook with current at the margin of the pass. You stay put there in order to watch sharks and you leave when you have reached the "point of return". In our case it is when our pressure in bars reaches 3 times the TTS + 50 bars. In otherwords, if your TTS is 10 minutes, we leave before our pressure reaches 80 bars.

In order to have roughly the same pressure at 35/40m, I frequently give my long house, on the hook to my wife. Therefore maximising the time at the pass margin.

In our case the long house is NOT used for OOA emergencies, only for OOA drills. We never had one in 800+ dives

 

[Patoux01]

@Freewillow I thought deco diving in the Maldives was forbidden

 

[Freewillow]

@Freewillow I thought deco diving in the Maldives was forbidden

Well, you are not wrong. Then replace Maldives by another country , or read that it was many years ago. .

Having said this, it was, everytime, with a Swiss Organisation that I will not name. But I am sure that you can guess the name.

As discussed in other thread, what is a deco dive? For a light deco dive 10 minutes TTS means a max of 6 minutes deco , I can soften the settings in order to make it a non-deco dive

 

[Storker]

I dunno, One warm water trip for me uses about 70 litres (18 US gallons) of fuel in my uneconomical V8 truck and costs about 20 Euro ($21 USD)

Are you just nitpicking, or is it pure schadenfreude I'm seeing?

 

[CAPTAIN SINBAD]

Excluding a GUE or other experienced and tech trained diver who has had primary donate drilled into them, I believe that a true OOA diver will be an unpredictable beast. I will brief which ever method my buddy is trained with, but would always anticipate the unexpected. They can snatch whatever reg they want and it will be okay

Agreed. Handling a long hose and air sharing while doing a free stop should be very early training. I was not introduced to it until a much advanced level which is why I feel that GUE, UTD and PSAI etc have a better entry level training layout.