How do you setup your primary and secondary regulators/hoses for recreational?

[CAPTAIN SINBAD]

You scenario is flawed the fact that a "safety stop" is not required. If you are in open water and lose air and your buddy has a 40" hose to share you simply go to the surface. You will not be doing "safety stops" when you are dealing with an OOA diver.

Why? Laws of physics are different all of a sudden because you are diving in a short hose? Or you have chosen to undermine them because you are not equipped to handle the emergency?

What about the stronger currents at the surface? Do you want to really want to kill the option of swimming together to the ascent line and then going up?

 

[Doby45]

Why? Laws of physics are different all of a sudden because you are diving in a short hose? Or you have chosen to undermine them because you are not equipped to handle the emergency?

What about the stronger currents at the surface? Do you want to really want to kill the option of swimming together to the ascent line and then going up?

A safety stop by it's definition is not a requirement. A deco stop would be, but a safety stop, nope. Not sure which Laws of Physics you are claiming to be suspended.

 

[CAPTAIN SINBAD]

@CAPTAIN SINBAD sharing air and swimming around in OW with a 40" hose on an adapter is a non-issue. Not necessarily as comfortable as a long hose, but you can kick freely. On a safety stop it has the advantage of the angle adapter allowing you to stay face to face, but at a decent distance apart. It's plenty long enough

Yes it can be done but not the easiest in short hose. I was trying this with a woman who was 5.2 and 115 lbs and the hose did not seem that short. I tried the same with another fellow 6.4 and three times her size and I felt like we were bumping into each other. It could be done with both of these folks but was easier with the smaller person that the big guy. With 7 foot hose I wont mind either of them.

 

[tbone1004]

Yes it can be done but not the easiest in short hose. I was trying this with a woman who was 5.2 and 115 lbs and the hose did not seem that short. I tried the same with another fellow 6.4 and three times her size and I felt like we were bumping into each other. It could be done with both of these folks but was easier with the smaller person that the big guy. With 7 foot hose I wont mind either of them.

hence why I have a 9' hose when cave diving. I'm 6'4", my buddy is 6'6", would be distinctly unpleasant in a 7' hose to come out single file. In OW the 7' is fine, but the 40" is still fine. I have the advantage of using Poseidon's, so I get a lot of extra length because they can be flipped upside-down that most people don't have access to, but even without it, you can still move around and kick through currents if you have to. The other option that I actually prefer when sharing air with a 40" hose is to do it "stacked". OOA diver on the bottom with you right on top of them. Gives plenty of room to kick freely and puts you in a control position in case anything else happens

 

[Storker]

Going straight up without a stop means that in order to save one guy from out of air we are now subjecting two to DCS.

"you can often cure bent, you can never cure drowned"

I might well be stupid, but I'd prefer taking a chamber ride over my buddy drowning.

 

[tooez]

Thank you all for the inputs. I can't believe I got 6 pages worth of very informative posts in just a half day. It took me awhile to read every single one of the them haha. Gotta love this forum

I was choosing between Dive Rite and DSS for a month. At the end, I went with Dive Rite Transpac XT with Travel XT because I like backpack style shoulder strap. I probably buy DDS for cold water dive here at Monterey, CA.

This setup is mainly for warm water while I'm on vacation. So, I've decided to put secondary on my neck with a bungee necklace. I really like Dive Rite streamlined setup from the video. I'm 5'5" how long do I need to buy Miflex hoses for octopus and primary? Is 40" with a swivel enough for primary? Thank you again.

 

[tbone1004]

hose lengths aren't dependent on your size, so the standard hose lengths will be fine

 

[CAPTAIN SINBAD]

"you can often cure bent, you can never cure drowned"

I might well be stupid, but I'd p
refer taking a chamber ride over my buddy drowning.

Or you could cure both by wearing a long hose and practicing stops while air sharing!

 

[Storker]

Or you could cure both by wearing a long hose and practicing stops while air sharing!

That's what I'm planning for. However, things don't always go as planned...

 

[rongoodman]

Because as a beginner you don't know. That's what the training is for. Plus the op hasn't said where or how he plans to dive. Like so many discussions on SB you get folks diving in diverse situations that call for different procedures yet they all think how they do it is the best. The guy diving the North Sea has a far different outlook than the lady diving in the Caymans. There is more than one way to dive and some for very good reasons.

I can't think of a reason why a diver in backmount would have his regulators set up any differently in the North Sea, the Caymans, or anyplace else.