Frankly when I have my camera with me I go in the other direction from most everybody else. That way they're not ruining my pics.
How do you handle "rude"?
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why do I never has this experience? (am I the rude person?)
why are people competing over things to see? You have just as good of a chance of seeing your own stuff by spreading out a bit. While DM's can be helpful finding critters, there are more down there and you can easily find your own stuff by looking yourself and stop worrying and watching what anyone else is doing. The only reason this is a problem at all, IMO is that the person is watching the "jerk" instead of watching the ocean.
talking to anyone (the DM, the diver) about something like this strikes me as petty. I think the poster handled it very well by connecting with the video man and making him care about someone else's experience.
why are people competing over things to see? You have just as good of a chance of seeing your own stuff by spreading out a bit. While DM's can be helpful finding critters, there are more down there and you can easily find your own stuff by looking yourself and stop worrying and watching what anyone else is doing. The only reason this is a problem at all, IMO is that the person is watching the "jerk" instead of watching the ocean.
talking to anyone (the DM, the diver) about something like this strikes me as petty. I think the poster handled it very well by connecting with the video man and making him care about someone else's experience.
Thats why I go in the other direction. It is a big ocean.
Damselfish
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Just because you're not following someone else, doesn't stop someone else from following you ...
all4scuba05
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I'm sorry but IMO if you're rude underwater then most likely you're rude on land too. You can't convince me that you accidently elbowed a diver out of the way while trying to take a picture of something someone else was looking at first. Just like when I'm about to push the shopping cart into the register line and you come and cut me off to place your items on the belt first. You KNOW what you're doing. If you didn't noticed you did it, then its because you are rude by nature and simply used to doing it all the time.
I tell you what. You elbow me underwater, right away I will let you know what you did. When people are rude in public, I usually do nothing about it because chances are I will never run across them again anyway. However, diving is different. You're going to be near me for atleast one dive. You get rude with me once, I'm not stupid enough to wait for you to kick the reg out of my mouth. Its amazing how many times I've read about divers kicking others diver's regs out of their mouths.
I guess life underwater is no different than life on land. Rude people are everywhere.
I tell you what. You elbow me underwater, right away I will let you know what you did. When people are rude in public, I usually do nothing about it because chances are I will never run across them again anyway. However, diving is different. You're going to be near me for atleast one dive. You get rude with me once, I'm not stupid enough to wait for you to kick the reg out of my mouth. Its amazing how many times I've read about divers kicking others diver's regs out of their mouths.
I guess life underwater is no different than life on land. Rude people are everywhere.
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oh....I get it.....(jet fins)
I am just saying....get away from divers and there will not be a big problem.... i think if you look for rude, you find rude. (at least I do). You will not change someone. If you fix him, there is another one where he came from. So fix yourself and your dive style. Stop thinking about what others are doing and get some distance and "turn the channel". make your own experience, it is a big ocean.
I am just saying....get away from divers and there will not be a big problem.... i think if you look for rude, you find rude. (at least I do). You will not change someone. If you fix him, there is another one where he came from. So fix yourself and your dive style. Stop thinking about what others are doing and get some distance and "turn the channel". make your own experience, it is a big ocean.
Diver Dennis
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pir8:
Me too. Catherine is the same. Fewer sandstorms when there are no others around.
DiveMaven
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My husband likes to take pictures underwater (dare I call him a photographer?? <LOL>), and we typically will bring up the rear when we're in group diving situations (like in Maui). That way if either of us find something cool we can both look at it and he can photograph it, then if anyone wants to come back to see it, they can....but the time it takes the group to return is usually enough for us to take pictures, etc. We will also often take a slightly different track for the same reason, but still staying behind the group.
If we're on a liveaboard or a non-led dive, we simply note who has cameras and go the other direction. On a liveaboard, we make sure also to splash in at a different time, which helps.
If we're on a liveaboard or a non-led dive, we simply note who has cameras and go the other direction. On a liveaboard, we make sure also to splash in at a different time, which helps.
Not all divers always have the option of 'leaving everbody else' and for some divers it may not be a good idea. While better to just avoid jerks, sometimes it is not practical(live aboards, group dives, regular dive buddies sibling) so you either must attempt to correct their behaviour or endure it.
And some photogs MO is to watch for divers stopping to look at something and then going over to grab a pic. The polite ones wait for you to leave, the rest just start wiggling their way into the group and then pushing them aside as they shift from one side to the other trying to frame the shot the way they like.
Then you have the case (experienced personally) of the dive buddy who becomes a photog, and becomes an embarrasement to dive with when holding a camera. If he was a good buddy before the camera, it is worth it to help him learn the proper 'skills' for his new hobby. It is a high task load situation and someone who was a considerate diver before the camera can become a rude butthead because he/she is focused so intently on the new tasks. They need input and correction when necessary. And sometimes some 'tough love'.
And some photogs MO is to watch for divers stopping to look at something and then going over to grab a pic. The polite ones wait for you to leave, the rest just start wiggling their way into the group and then pushing them aside as they shift from one side to the other trying to frame the shot the way they like.
Then you have the case (experienced personally) of the dive buddy who becomes a photog, and becomes an embarrasement to dive with when holding a camera. If he was a good buddy before the camera, it is worth it to help him learn the proper 'skills' for his new hobby. It is a high task load situation and someone who was a considerate diver before the camera can become a rude butthead because he/she is focused so intently on the new tasks. They need input and correction when necessary. And sometimes some 'tough love'.
Zeeman
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Dive knife, cut air line. Problem solved.
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