Horizontal Ascents...

[Uncle Pug]

O-ring once bubbled...
Now, I know what you are going to say, but I really, really, really don't like option 1..

...no need for me to say it...

...since you are willing to not only participate in but to fund such operations and unwilling to stand up on your hind legs and tell them which way the pickle squirts. ut:

 

[Spectre]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...
unwilling to stand up on your hind legs and tell them which way the pickle squirts.

That's it... one of these days I'm gonna find the time to piece together a 'classic pugisms' thread!

 

[O-ring]

...since you are willing to not only participate in but to fund such operations and unwilling to stand up on your hind legs and tell them which way the pickle squirts

Voting with our wallets is the only way to change things, but outside of buying a boat or chartering our own every time it may be a long while before any of us are doing anything but quarry diving if we do it that way...

One group I hang out with talked about everyone chipping in and buying a Zodiac and taking it with us on the boats....like I have the money for that though.. I could get a Gavin and drive myself back to the boat in style for that kind of dough...

 

[Uncle Pug]

AaronBBrown once bubbled...
I should have said, "like there is any other way to breathe normally"

... you were being pedantic.... not that there is anything wrong with being pedantic... shoot, I like pedantic... yes pedantic is fine... as long as it is correct.

Why without pedantry most of our threads here on Scuba Board would fizzle out within a few posts as we agreed with one another's inanities... and wandered off to putter around the house, shop, office or cafe.

Another Latte please... burnt cream double shot with 2% and no whip.

 

[Uncle Pug]

Jarhead once bubbled...
Which is the "bad idea?

Neither is the *bad idea*.... it is the combination that is the *bad idea*

Now I have two stories to tell about anchored dive boats in current... but of course they will be for another thread

 

[Soggy]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

... you were being pedantic.... not that there is anything wrong with being pedantic... shoot, I like pedantic... yes pedantic is fine... as long as it is correct.

Yeah...I was being pedantic...after all, like I said, what is important is not the actual physiology, but what the sensation of controling one's bouyancy with breathing is. I was just harping on Spectre 'cuz he wears lobsters on his head and because I have a lot of personal experience with that particular misunderstanding in my past career as a performer and teacher of trumpet.

 

[Rick Murchison]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

Rick a good portion of the 5thD DIR training takes place in Seattle's boat busy Elliot Bay adjacent to a water taxi terminal. Though for sake of viz this video may have been shot at Cresent Lake... you can be sure these guys were not only aware of everything going on in their vicinity... they probably knew what was going on in yours too...

I watched the tape. I know the angle of view out of a scuba mask. I know what a diver can see - I demonstrate it to students all the time. These guys are an accident waiting for a place to happen. And you can be sure that if you do this kind of ascent in typical gulf conditions somebody's going to get seriously hurt. There is no physical way that the fellows in this video could see what was directly above them - where we dive, and the kind of conditions in which we dive, the occasional glance won't do. You must watch the boat or it will bite you. If you can do your horizontal ascent watching the boat, fine - have at it - but the video is a demonstration of poor technique. Dangerous technique.
Ascending close to the surface belly down makes as much sense as descending close to the bottom belly up.
Look up. Reach up. Then you can come up.
Rick

 

[Uncle Pug]

AaronBBrown once bubbled...
a lot of personal experience with that particular misunderstanding in my past career as a performer and teacher of trumpet.

Nothing worse than watching an emphysemic tubaist....
And waiting for the inevitable....

(You do ventilations... I'll take compressions.)

 

[O-ring]

Look up. Reach up. Then you can come up.

So go vertical once you finish your last stop (10' or 15' depending). Then look up, reach up, and come up...

 

[Rick Murchison]

boomx5 once bubbled...

Is there a way to do a proper horizontal ascent and still look above you?

In the first place, why cling to a "horizontal ascent" near the surface. it's sort of like trying to adapt a Cadillac to a Jeep trail. While horizontal positioning may have some theoretical merit for off-gassing at deco stops, approaching the boat we need to be watching the boat, watching other divers (to stay clear of their tanks/fins etc) - in general putting our attention where the problem lies - and it's not in the aesthetics of a horizontal body position. This summer I damn near busted a gut yanking a horizontal ascender clear of the wheel (prop) on the Island Diver - where it had been clear above a couple seconds before - just one swell and the boat swung about ten feet in two seconds. She was a bit miffed I'd ruined her "form" until she saw the brass blade inches from her eyes.
Personally I do manage a fairly horizontal position for the final ascent - but it doesn't look anything like the video - it's pretty much on my back or side - I keep a position that's pretty much "belly to boat."
Rick