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Doc Intrepid:
Diving with kids has unique challenges, also unique rewards. IMHO, this is one of those 'important' things....

I couldn't agree more. Take the OW course with your son, refresh your skills and rack up some great quality time with your son. My son got certified 2 yrs ago and diving with him has been a thrill, watching his skills grow, and what a great father/son activity. My daughter will be getting certified this summer and we will have the whole underwater world to explore together. What better way to share time, teach, and learn than to do it with my kids!

Danny
www.divingrebels.org
 
KidScuba:
Hello and thank's for your time. I'm very new to scuba, other then certification I've only been once (1996 St Thomas ) were going on a cruise and my 13 year old son would like to join me and our group ( all first time divers ) for a dive in St Maarten or St Thomas. I would love to see him join us and would consider diveing more if he enjoyed it, what is your advice for us and what Island / dive would you recommend.

Thank's again.

Todd

p.s. we live in Utah

Hello Todd,

I dive with my son who just turned thirteen and we have a great time diving together.
My son got certified when he was ten and has been diving for two years now. He took his Jr. Advanced Open Water last summer and has over fifty dives under his belt.
I have been diving since the late 80's but I took the whole coarse over with him. Before we took the coarse we bought the video tapes and the books of the coarse and went over all the material at our own pace. Then we took the coarse together. It's a little bit of an investment to take the coarse again and to buy the tapes but it is a good investment to be able to go over the material at your own pace. It is fun and a great refresher to take the coarse together.
EJOWest
 
KidScuba:
Hello and thank's for your time. I'm very new to scuba, other then certification I've only been once (1996 St Thomas ) were going on a cruise and my 13 year old son would like to join me and our group ( all first time divers ) for a dive in St Maarten or St Thomas. I would love to see him join us and would consider diveing more if he enjoyed it, what is your advice for us and what Island / dive would you recommend.

Thank's again.

Todd

p.s. we live in Utah

Greetings Todd!

My son, 12, and daughter, 14, were certified in the Philippines last summer; however, when I signed up for my class, I had them both take refresher courses with me because we'll be doing mostly cold water, which I understand is really different. They did great in the pool; much more relaxed than me. When I did my open water in Monterey, I left them at home. (They'll be going in a couple weeks). I wanted to concentrate on my skills first, since we'll be diving together, and I didn't want the Mom Role to kick in before I knew what I was doing.
 
Welcome Aboard Todd! Whereabouts in Utah do you live. I'm out in Vernal.
Mark
 
highlandpiper:
Welcome Aboard Todd! Whereabouts in Utah do you live. I'm out in Vernal.
Mark

Hellow Mark, sorry It me so long to get back to you I didn't know we had a 2nd page of replys. We live in Park City, Do you know any Patrys, Millers or Crowelys from Rosselvelt? I elk hunt with them every year.
 
Hi....welcome...even though I too am new to Scubaboard, I think I can add to the discussion. Please both you and your son should start fresh with Open Water Dive classes. I think I took the same cruise that you're going to be on. I had taken my Closed Water (Pool) classes and classroom instruction the weekend prior to my departure....Thank God I did. I then arranged through the Internet to take my open water dives in St. Lucia and Barbados...where I was certified after completing my open water dives.....PLease, please make sure you get the safety orientation from your local dive center prior to going...especially for your son. It's more important than anything else. You'll need to be semi-proficient and comfortable in the equipment before you go out in open water. I was lucky in that I got very calm seas, except for one day. Most importantly, you never know what or whom you're going to get in the way of a dive master. I had a terrible experience as the only "newbie" on a dive...didn't have a buddy, and the dive assistant was with the divemaster in the front...and I was last....ROOA....at least it was at my 15' safety stop....but I had at least been taught what to do, and how to do it.
However, after being certified in Barbados, I dove each one of the islands we stopped at during the rest of the cruise....It was wonderful, I'm hooked for life, and sincerely wish that I had taken up this wonderful beautiful passion when I was 12, not at 50+.
To sum it all up....Take Classes, Get Certified, Learn from the Pros...Enjoy the time you have with your son, sharing a passion together. Do it Right...and it will be with you for a lifetime or two...

Enjoy your Cruise....it can't be beat....

Teed0ff





KidScuba:
Hello and thank's for your time. I'm very new to scuba, other then certification I've only been once (1996 St Thomas ) were going on a cruise and my 13 year old son would like to join me and our group ( all first time divers ) for a dive in St Maarten or St Thomas. I would love to see him join us and would consider diveing more if he enjoyed it, what is your advice for us and what Island / dive would you recommend.

Thank's again.

Todd

p.s. we live in Utah
 
KidScuba:
Hellow Mark, sorry It me so long to get back to you I didn't know we had a 2nd page of replys. We live in Park City, Do you know any Patrys, Millers or Crowelys from Rosselvelt? I elk hunt with them every year.

Just got back myself and saw this. Yeah, I do know some Crowely's. Nice place to elk hunt out here. Been a lot of them around this year. Hope your trip goes well.
Mark.
 
DandyDon:
The Scuba at St.Maarten is okay, but nothing great; you'll dock on the Dutch side. Be careful you don't plan a trip with the kids to a nude beach on the French side. St.Thomas would be my preference, with a catamaran excursion to Buck Island.



Why, should children be taught there is something shameful about peoples bodies at the beach?
 
Let me chime in on a couple of issues as a father and diver. I strongly agree with the above points about obtaining OW training and requiring flotation for children on snorkel trips.

As far as OW training goes, remember that you, as dad and dive buddy must be able to rescue both yourself and your son. And, mature or not, experienced in swimming or not, adolescents are more prone to panic than adults, and panic can kill divers (either you or your son or both.) Honing your skills and allowing him to receive full training will leave you both prepared for the unexpected. I always say, "expect the best, but prepare for the worst."

As far as flotation devices go, I'm a stickler with my kids. On snorkel trips with long survace swims, everybody in the group must carry backup flotation devices. I usually wear my bc, with it's whistle, mirror and sausage. The reason? The places where we dive require relatively long (100 yds or more) surface swims and are in areas where currents can be strong and unpredictable. Add boat traffic to the equation, and you've got a situation that requires a little more diligence than shallower, close-in snorkeling. I like having the ability to establish positive bouyancy and wait out a bad situation, and the ability to signal for help if we get into trouble. That being said, my kids are great swimmers and are considering OW training. Up to now, though, snorkeling has been the right fit for them.

Best wishes on your vacation. I hope you have a great time and see lots of interesting sites.

-Grier
 
Liberal Antidote:
Why, should children be taught there is something shameful about peoples bodies at the beach?

I guess my comment was brief. I don't know where the thread originator is, or where you are for that matter (put that in your profiles, folks - please!), so I tend to react as if I was talking to an American. Most Americans wouldn't want their 13 yo with them if they stumbled onto a French nude beach. All French beaches are topless, I think, and Americans just don't take their kids there.

The one time I went, there was one fellow with - uh, his excitement clearly evident - walking up and down the beach.
:lol:



GrierHPharmD:
Let me chime in on a couple of issues as a father and diver. I strongly agree with the above points about obtaining OW training and requiring flotation for children on snorkel trips.

As far as OW training goes, remember that you, as dad and dive buddy must be able to rescue both yourself and your son. And, mature or not, experienced in swimming or not, adolescents are more prone to panic than adults, and panic can kill divers (either you or your son or both.) Honing your skills and allowing him to receive full training will leave you both prepared for the unexpected. I always say, "expect the best, but prepare for the worst."

As far as flotation devices go, I'm a stickler with my kids. On snorkel trips with long survace swims, everybody in the group must carry backup flotation devices. I usually wear my bc, with it's whistle, mirror and sausage. The reason? The places where we dive require relatively long (100 yds or more) surface swims and are in areas where currents can be strong and unpredictable. Add boat traffic to the equation, and you've got a situation that requires a little more diligence than shallower, close-in snorkeling. I like having the ability to establish positive bouyancy and wait out a bad situation, and the ability to signal for help if we get into trouble. That being said, my kids are great swimmers and are considering OW training. Up to now, though, snorkeling has been the right fit for them.

Best wishes on your vacation. I hope you have a great time and see lots of interesting sites.

-Grier

I think we're all a little eadgy after that accident at Deerfield Beach last week, but several Snorkeling Vest (Horse Collars) long ago. My 12 year old wears his inflated, always, when he goes in any water other than a concrete pool. My sister and daughter, both inexperienced in open water, both wore them last week in Crystal River's King Bay when we snorkeled with manatees, and I had one more handy.

I nwouldn't snorkel with a BC, Grier. At least not my bulky one. Horse Collars are about $30, and double as good SI pillows. :D
 

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