MikeHoncho
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I think I figured out why SB keeps crashing……it’s all of the heavy egos floating around in this thread.
Had my first student today
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JRK44
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Now being an experienced divemaster trainee, I have begun considering my path post qualification and I've decided to start my own business: baptisms at depth.
The idea is that most people are cleansed in the blood of the lamb on the surface.
We'll do it at 15m for a truly life changing experience!
It can't be too difficult, surely?
Get a load of punters together at a local dive site. Or go out on a boat in the North sea.
Get them all kitted up and throw them in the water and meet them at 15m where we'll practice some basic skills like unexpectedly turning their air off so they practice buddy breathing.
If they're interested in taking it further, we'll count their first dive as part of their OW and I'll pass them to my mate Pete as a warm lead.
Being an experienced divemaster trainee, I'll fully brief them beforehand no problem.
I've been in touch with a local graphic design agency and I've had a logo designed for this venture. I feel it truly symbolises a change of heart in a new Christian.
What do you think?
We'll keep costs down by not employing any actual instructors.
Any feedback appreciated.
The idea is that most people are cleansed in the blood of the lamb on the surface.
We'll do it at 15m for a truly life changing experience!
It can't be too difficult, surely?
Get a load of punters together at a local dive site. Or go out on a boat in the North sea.
Get them all kitted up and throw them in the water and meet them at 15m where we'll practice some basic skills like unexpectedly turning their air off so they practice buddy breathing.
If they're interested in taking it further, we'll count their first dive as part of their OW and I'll pass them to my mate Pete as a warm lead.
Being an experienced divemaster trainee, I'll fully brief them beforehand no problem.
I've been in touch with a local graphic design agency and I've had a logo designed for this venture. I feel it truly symbolises a change of heart in a new Christian.
What do you think?
We'll keep costs down by not employing any actual instructors.
Any feedback appreciated.
Yes he did but he also said the instructor was there with him. What was assumed is the instructor did not brief the students, yes students the OW an DMT, assumed the instructor did not demonstrate skills first, assumed the instructor was out of standards. This is a recurring theme on this thread and many others on SB that the instructor is an idiot but that instructor is not on SB to explain themselves, the instructors that are on SB jump on to prove how good they are. Unfortunately the vast majority of working instructors are not subscribed to SB and only a small vocal group are.
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JRK44
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Ina
(Below is my translation, i don't have the English version)
1. Prepare and organise a briefing en equipment for students.
2.coordinate sequence of events
3. Supervise students who won't get attention from instructor at that time
4. Help a student overcome a learning problem
5. React to problem student faces
6. Demonstrate a skill to a student.
So i really start to understand less and less what the gross violations were (assuming it was confined water and instructor had previously shown skill).
(Hope i don't reopen a closed can of worms, if so, feel free to delete
)
In the instructor manual it actually says that a DMT needs to (in confined water)
(Below is my translation, i don't have the English version)
1. Prepare and organise a briefing en equipment for students.
2.coordinate sequence of events
3. Supervise students who won't get attention from instructor at that time
4. Help a student overcome a learning problem
5. React to problem student faces
6. Demonstrate a skill to a student.
So i really start to understand less and less what the gross violations were (assuming it was confined water and instructor had previously shown skill).
(Hope i don't reopen a closed can of worms, if so, feel free to delete
)
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#4 is something I was unaware of.Ina
In the instructor manual it actually says that a DMT needs to (in confined water)
(Below is my translation, i don't have the English version)
1. Prepare and organise a briefing en equipment for students.
2.coordinate sequence of events
3. Supervise students who won't get attention from instructor at that time
4. Help a student overcome a learning problem
5. React to problem student faces
6. Demonstrate a skill to a student.
So i really start to understand less and less what the gross violations were (assuming it was confined water and instructor had previously shown skill).
(Hope i don't reopen a closed can of worms, if so, feel free to delete
In the OP's FIRST post in this thread he crystal clearly states that this was OPEN WATER 2. If he didn't mean that then he should clarify it. He's obviously still here and reading all of this thread because he is posting "LIKES" whenever a moderator or anyone else posts something he likes to hear and even thanks the mods for defending him...
So what's the deal OP? Was this a Confined Water dive or an Open Water dive? It makes a difference and it's a totally fair question.
So what's the deal OP? Was this a Confined Water dive or an Open Water dive? It makes a difference and it's a totally fair question.
Thanks to the mod for 'assisting' some of the more vocal members off of this thread
Reminds me of the Monty Python argument sketch.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Are we here for the five minute argument or the full half hour...?
You started it.
You're just repeating everything I said...
No it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Are we here for the five minute argument or the full half hour...?
You started it.
You're just repeating everything I said...
This has been an entertaining thread to read. Ultimately, I think OP in his excitement misunderstood what his role was. His title for this thread states that “he had a first student”. Right there and then he is already out of place. His instructor had a student. He is a student himself. Hopefully , he was being evaluated continuously by an instructor as he was demonstrating the skills.
I definitely can understand his excitement and share his love for scuba diving and teaching. It is also possible that he embellished his role a little bit as a part of this excitement while putting his post out in public. A lot of people do it, consciously or subconsciously. Regardless, whether it was an open water or confined water or wether he was continuously monitored (I hope he was) - OP must understand that he did not have a student.
I definitely can understand his excitement and share his love for scuba diving and teaching. It is also possible that he embellished his role a little bit as a part of this excitement while putting his post out in public. A lot of people do it, consciously or subconsciously. Regardless, whether it was an open water or confined water or wether he was continuously monitored (I hope he was) - OP must understand that he did not have a student.
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This has already been covered. Read the thread.
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