Gue Vs Tdi

[WarmWaterDiver]

I'm not much for joining such organizations personally. Much like politics, I'm an independant. Just a mercenary - the best pay & treatment for services rendered, and it's not too big a stretch to do some community service stuff like posting here for no other reimbursement than the satisfaction of leaving a candle lit if anyone chooses to use it. If someone actually uses it, my satisfaction jumps to a new quantum level.

Lamont, I found the formal name again for my preference in how to remember this stuff today in the course of a work assignment - the Law of Corresponding States - ideal gases don't have critical points, but use of pseudocriticals often helps as a crutch to get around that real world complication.

Found my mass transfer and thermodynamics books early on after our recent move, but my old P-Chem text has been elusive since our recent relocation. Probably in a box in the garage to be discovered again at a later time. That was the only course I remember doing actual work using Maxwell-Boltzmann stuff from a quantum perspective.

 

[lamont]

I'm not much for joining such organizations personally. Much like politics, I'm an independant. Just a mercenary - the best pay & treatment for services rendered, and it's not too big a stretch to do some community service stuff like posting here for no other reimbursement than the satisfaction of leaving a candle lit if anyone chooses to use it. If someone actually uses it, my satisfaction jumps to a new quantum level.

Lamont, I found the formal name again for my preference in how to remember this stuff today in the course of a work assignment - the Law of Corresponding States - ideal gases don't have critical points, but use of pseudocriticals often helps as a crutch to get around that real world complication.

Found my mass transfer and thermodynamics books early on after our recent move, but my old P-Chem text has been elusive since our recent relocation. Probably in a box in the garage to be discovered again at a later time. That was the only course I remember doing actual work using Maxwell-Boltzmann stuff from a quantum perspective.

There was a math physics course I took which, IIRC, connected up path integral formulation of quantum mechanics with classical and quantum stat mech which really opened my eyes and made me wish I'd paid more attention to the jr level stat mech course. It was right at the end of the 3rd quarter of the course and it kind of made my head swim with this curveball coming from green's functions solutions of the schrodinger equation (IIRC) and winding up in stat mech... That was an awesome class... I kept on walking out of that class going "whoah, its all connected" like I'd just taken a bit too much acid or something...

 

[WarmWaterDiver]

I never had a Sadistical Mechanics class by that title per se in the schools I attended, but the material was covered - just in different names. We took more semesters of Physical Chemistry, Thermodynamics, Economics, Plant Design, and Unit Operations than any other engineering school in the state at that time - so Thermo & P-Chem were our main hurdles to clear to make it into, much less through, our senior classes and labs. But, the program viewed the 4 year degree as prep to enter the working world, rather than the often seen approach of academia as prep to enter grad school, and the applications-oriented rather than theory-oriented fit me very well (it was the fourth school I'd been to while working my way through).

My Physical Chemistry prof had a bias against the engineering students vs. pure science (Arts & Sciences) students and was a hyperkinetic guy to boot - like a Jack Russel terrier on espresso double shots. He always started the course with the quantum approach, and timing was just such that the due date to withdraw without penalty came just after his first exam. One of the exam problems I recall involved a lunar astronaut with a pinhole suit leak, and you were to apply Graham's Law of Effusion to show the change in suit gas composition over time. Then, after that first exam, he'd switch to the more classical approach which would dovetail with the applications-oriented stuff we were learning in our engineering thermodynamics classes, and for many of us, that's when we saw that the same result could be obtained from different perspectives (the WHOA factor, without intoxicants, as you put it). But he loved for the quantum stuff to serve as a weed-out for the wannabe's. One engineering candidate looked across the aisle at me after the first exam and said 'Man, I could double my score and still not come close to yours!'. He stuck it out and wound up OK with a C at the end though.

Then I took a senior level inorganic chemistry course as my advanced science elective, which really went deep into the quantum stuff and relation to the periodic table, electron shells, electron spin states (and relation to magnetic susceptibility), and that's when I really went 'WHOA" about how via quantum approach, these were distinct 'ladder rungs' and not a continuous ramp one could slide up and down. Made me wish I'd paid more attention to jump functions in Difficult Equations, but I made it through OK.

So, Nova's right in that some things come more easily to some people, but there's no reason to belittle someone who's honestly trying - like the guy I and others helped get to a 'C' by the end of the course by working outside of class with him.

 

[Tom Yerian]

2+2= 4 I kniht llits,em knuht ?.....capt Tom

Wow guys, what an entertaining and inspiring display of mental acumen. It has been refreshing to monitor the progress of such cerebral giants in their quest for ultimate truths. It has made my dull, humdrum experiences, and understanding of the concepts of diving;worth every minute! I had delusional thoughts of grandure, That I had reached the pinnacle of knowledge,and experience in my diving career.Nay, I have been truly humbled! The lexicon of knowledge I have gained ,has lifted up my spirit once again, in what I believed to have been a descent into obscurity.I thank You!
Through the brilliant diatribe I have witnessed through this forum, has shown me the error in my thought.I never believed it could happen! But, you all made me realize that I could be like you guy's someday; you have made me realize, I can be a better diver, and, that there is a vast store house of knowledge, out there, waiting to be tapped! Once again I most humbly thank you.

Capt. Tom

 

[jonnythan]

Tom, why are you replying to all these month-old threads?

 

[Tom Yerian]

Well, whats your problem? Tdi is good, GUE is much better! Are you against Gue philosophy, or the fact they push a product? Many businesses push a certain product to inhance the highest qualities of their particular program. Well, I have used an explorer for years and have found it is the most unconvoluted harness system on the market. I went out and bought it, even though I have an Oms system;not as good as the explorer. I didn't complain when I witched, and I am glad I did! It is a better system. If your a tough, only the best for you type of diver,then go GUE! Don't gripe about having to to buy a Halcyon, you will be glad you did !!... Capt. Tom

 

[jonnythan]

Yes.

I'm against GUE philosophy. *rolls eyes*

Thanks for your input.

 

[JeffG]

Well, whats your problem? Tdi is good, GUE is much better! Are you against Gue philosophy, or the fact they push a product? Many businesses push a certain product to inhance the highest qualities of their particular program. Well, I have used an explorer for years and have found it is the most unconvoluted harness system on the market. I went out and bought it, even though I have an Oms system;not as good as the explorer. I didn't complain when I witched, and I am glad I did! It is a better system. If your a tough, only the best for you type of diver,then go GUE! Don't gripe about having to to buy a Halcyon, you will be glad you did !!... Capt. Tom

Do you have a little calendar that reminds you once a month to go to Scubaboard and post something to an old thread, that we can't understand or who you are even replying to?

 

[WarmWaterDiver]

2+2= 4 I kniht llits,em knuht ?.....capt Tom

Wow guys, what an entertaining and inspiring display of mental acumen. It has been refreshing to monitor the progress of such cerebral giants in their quest for ultimate truths. It has made my dull, humdrum experiences, and understanding of the concepts of diving;worth every minute! I had delusional thoughts of grandure, That I had reached the pinnacle of knowledge,and experience in my diving career.Nay, I have been truly humbled! The lexicon of knowledge I have gained ,has lifted up my spirit once again, in what I believed to have been a descent into obscurity.I thank You!
Through the brilliant diatribe I have witnessed through this forum, has shown me the error in my thought.I never believed it could happen! But, you all made me realize that I could be like you guy's someday; you have made me realize, I can be a better diver, and, that there is a vast store house of knowledge, out there, waiting to be tapped! Once again I most humbly thank you.

Capt. Tom

So Tom - which part(s) of the discussion are you applying already to be a better diver? They might be handy summarized in a 'sticky' for the forum, and as something for me to fall back on if my career ends and diving changes from my hobby to my career (I guess it could happen).

 

[nova]

Yes.

I'm against GUE philosophy. *rolls eyes*

Thanks for your input.

The Kool-aid must be wearing off, because jonny and I just agreed on something