Global Warming

[Tomeck]

All I can say about the hustler Al Gore is this...he won a Nobel Prize yet oddly Mahatma Ganghi didn't. Yassir Arafat won a Nobel ...yet Mother Theresa did not. Jimmi Carter won a Nobel yet Sir Winston Churchill did not ... conclusion a Nobel prize is another exercise in socialist masterbation.

About socialist, I believe that you are "parano". The USA is also a socialist country, because schools are free, libraries are also free. Can they make schools and libraries paying, in order that the USA isn't socialist?

 

[Thalassamania]

Finally Thal there are credible scientist out there who have serious questions concerning man made global warming. These voices are being marginalized, silenced and of course ridiculed. Very few people on this earth with any credibility deny global warming ...it is the cause of the last 30 yrs of warming which is in question.

Yes, there are creditable scientists that, unable to parse global warming into "natural" and anthropogenic components, express doubts about the parsing, but not the process. I have some of those same doubts. We also have doubts about the point were it becomes irreversible. But what I see in the Arctic and Antarctic and the trends that I see in ocean temperature data frankly scares the crap out of me. Al Gore is not the issue and it would be a real shame if we all marched off to our doom distracted from seeking a solution because we are busy arguing about exactly how thick a coating of slime a professional politician is wearing.

 

[Tomeck]

If you do not believe global warming, you will have more hurricanes!

 

[Eris Lucan7*]

About socialist, I believe that you are "parano". The USA is also a socialist country, because schools are free, libraries are also free. Can they make schools and libraries paying, in order that the USA isn't socialist?

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[Hank49]

it would be a real shame if we all marched off to our doom distracted from seeking a solution because we are busy arguing about exactly how thick a coating of slime a professional politician is wearing.

I don't argue that the Earth is warming, although we've only come to this conclusion in the last 30 years or so...since it was believed that it was cooling in the 70s. So now we have enough data....or the odds are in our favor...that shows it's definitely happening.
Now, it's a good idea to stop or reduce carbon emmisions etc anyway due to our having to breath it etc etc, and we realized this years ago also, but can we say with absolute certainty that this will stop the process of warming? I find it quite amazing that people are presuming that we can actually control the temperature of this planet. If it were cooling, as it has obviously done in the past, we should be even more alarmed given that food production could be seriously hindered. Can we say that we could then warm the Earth? Not likely. At least at this point in our existence.
We're getting the idea and trying to spread it worldwide...less pollution in general. But can we stablize the climate of Earth? good luck.

 

[Skull]

Just a side note concerning reducing CO2 and carbon taxes ...John Dingell of Mich wants to tax your house by limiting your interest deductions on a sliding scale. Any house over 3000 sqft would realize the front of the deduction process, after 4200 sqft you would not have any interest deductions. The carbon tax i.e. funds not deducted for interest payments tied to this scale would be placed into the general fund. The thinking process is that by reducing urban sprawl and thus reducing the demand for ever larger houses, will cut back on commutes, energy efficiency (though new homes are much more efficient than older homes like mine) and so on.

I own a small older house inside the city of San Diego and would not be affected ...so really I have no dog in this hunt. Further the capitalist pig that I am, oddly I find myself ok with this bill. Course you know that the money will never be used to reduce CO2 ...unless of course it goes directly to the UN. Where eventually they will find the proper use for the carbon taxes collected ...ha ha ha !

 

[Texas_Aggie06]

Then the average Joe is pretty damn stupid if he's willing to slit his (and my) childrens' throats 'cause he doesn't like the messenger.

wow, this is just plain idiotic. ultimate scare tactics.

like i said earlier, the sun is putting off more radiation than in the past, and we are seeing warmer temperatures. hmm, let's put two and two together.

20-30 years ago scientists were positive that the poles would switch.

the more we know about this planet. the more we have no idea.

 

[SNorman]

I guess you don't ... but have you done something in the last year that compares? I know I haven't.

Well, since we're giving out prizes for "effort" now and not actual accomplishments, I'm going to make an effort at something super awesome this next year, maybe splitting subatomic particles or something. I will fail miserably, but my effort will be awesome!

 

[SNorman]

Who can argue with 100 years of solid scientific consensus?

Date: Oct. 7, 1912
Publication: New York Times
Quote: Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age
Comment: Still encroaching…

Date: June 28, 1923
Publication: Los Angeles Times
Quote: The possibility of another Ice Age already having started… is admitted by men of first rank in the scientific world, men specially qualified to speak.
Comment: Must be a slow starter.

Date: Aug. 9, 1923
Publication: Chicago Tribune
Quote: Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada
Comment: Still there last time we checked.

Date: December 1932
Publication: The Atlantic
Quote: We must be just teetering on an ice age which some relatively mild geologic action would be sufficient to start going.
Comment: Still teetering.

Date: Feb. 20, 1969
Publication: New York Times from Col. Bernt Bachen
Quote: The Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two.
Comment: Santa still is safe.

Date: February 1974
Publication: Fortune magazine from Reid Bryson
Quote: There is very important climatic change going on right now… It is something that, if it continues, will affect the whole human occupation of the earth – like a billion people starving.
Comment: World population increased by 2.5 billion.

Date: March 1, 1975
Publication: Science News
Quote: The cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed, and we are unlikely to quickly regain the “very extraordinary period of warmth” that preceded it.
Comment: If “not soon be reversed” means “reversed by the next decade,” then yes.

Date: March 1, 1975
Publication: Science News
Quote: The temperature has already fallen back some 0.6 degrees, and shows no sign of reversal.
Comment: So much for climatologists reading the signs correctly.

Date: July-August 1975
Publication: International Wildlife
Quote: But the sense of the discoveries is that there is no reason why the ice age should not start in earnest in our lifetimes.
Comment: There’s still time.

Date: 1992
Publication: Al Gore, “Earth in the Balance”
Quote: About 10 million residents of Bangladesh will lose their homes and means of sustenance because of the rising sea level, due to global warming, in the next few decades.
Comment: While periodic monsoons still cause flooding, rising seas have not been a problem.

Date: Feb. 2, 2006
Publication: The Daily Telegraph
Quote: “Billions will die,” says Lovelock, who tells us that he is not normally a gloomy type. Human civilisation will be reduced to a “broken rabble ruled by brutal warlords”, and the plague-ridden remainder of the species will flee the cracked and broken earth to the Arctic, the last temperate spot, where a few breeding couples will survive.haha

 

[deeper thoughts]

Who can argue with 100 years of solid scientific consensus?

Date: Oct. 7, 1912
Publication: New York Times
Quote: Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age
Comment: Still encroaching…

Date: June 28, 1923
Publication: Los Angeles Times
Quote: The possibility of another Ice Age already having started… is admitted by men of first rank in the scientific world, men specially qualified to speak.
Comment: Must be a slow starter.

Date: Aug. 9, 1923
Publication: Chicago Tribune
Quote: Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada
Comment: Still there last time we checked.

Date: December 1932
Publication: The Atlantic
Quote: We must be just teetering on an ice age which some relatively mild geologic action would be sufficient to start going.
Comment: Still teetering.

Date: Feb. 20, 1969
Publication: New York Times from Col. Bernt Bachen
Quote: The Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two.
Comment: Santa still is safe.

Date: February 1974
Publication: Fortune magazine from Reid Bryson
Quote: There is very important climatic change going on right now… It is something that, if it continues, will affect the whole human occupation of the earth – like a billion people starving.
Comment: World population increased by 2.5 billion.

Date: March 1, 1975
Publication: Science News
Quote: The cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed, and we are unlikely to quickly regain the “very extraordinary period of warmth” that preceded it.
Comment: If “not soon be reversed” means “reversed by the next decade,” then yes.

Date: March 1, 1975
Publication: Science News
Quote: The temperature has already fallen back some 0.6 degrees, and shows no sign of reversal.
Comment: So much for climatologists reading the signs correctly.

Date: July-August 1975
Publication: International Wildlife
Quote: But the sense of the discoveries is that there is no reason why the ice age should not start in earnest in our lifetimes.
Comment: There’s still time.

Date: 1992
Publication: Al Gore, “Earth in the Balance”
Quote: About 10 million residents of Bangladesh will lose their homes and means of sustenance because of the rising sea level, due to global warming, in the next few decades.
Comment: While periodic monsoons still cause flooding, rising seas have not been a problem.

Date: Feb. 2, 2006
Publication: The Daily Telegraph
Quote: “Billions will die,” says Lovelock, who tells us that he is not normally a gloomy type. Human civilisation will be reduced to a “broken rabble ruled by brutal warlords”, and the plague-ridden remainder of the species will flee the cracked and broken earth to the Arctic, the last temperate spot, where a few breeding couples will survive.haha

We are all DOOMED