Finding a (Best) Dive Op in Cozumel

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I guess I need to find out how to pin it!


A ScubaBoard Staff Message...

Let me explain how moderators will look upon such a request. Pinned threads are for questions that A) get asked a lot and B) for an answer that is always the same. This thread meets part A but not part B. We always lock pinned threads, meaning you wouldn't be able to update the spreadsheet with new info (except by going through a moderator). One of the beauties of what you have created is the ability to update data in real time.

The other reality is that we limit the number of pinned threads. To pin this one, we would need to seriously consider unpinning one of the others permanently pinned here (the invasion thread is pinned here temporarily, until it is over).

These are some of the things that moderators would consider, should you make this request. There may well be more (and we would have that discussion in our back room). I have weighed the pros and cons of pinning this thread, should such a request be made, and I think have have outlined the salient things that would be considered prior to deciding to pin, or not.
 
@MMM Would it be possible for you to add/dovetail this link on the pinned thread created by Christie where she addresses FAQ ? I know some of these requests are easier said than done. Thanks for taking the time to moderate this forum.
 
Received a message that the file in the previous post wouldn't open, so I think, and hope, I have the problem corrected.
Great spreadsheet, feel free to add Blue Note Scuba to your list, 20+years in business in Cozumel. Their fast boat is legal with permits for 25. Info can be found on bluenotescuba.com
 
Great spreadsheet, feel free to add Blue Note Scuba to your list, 20+years in business in Cozumel. Their fast boat is legal with permits for 25. Info can be found on bluenotescuba.com
Thanks for the info - had not heard of them before, but am pretty sure I have seen their boat on the water. Blue Note Scuba has been added.

Posting the link to the spreadsheet again so it's easier to find. Anyone who has been recently and has any updated info, feel free to let me know and I will make changes.

Dive ops by jonhall
 
First let me reminisce: a year or so after joining SB in 2009, I read a thread about the best dive op in Coz with people cheerleading for their choice. I found myself looking at the different websites of those dive ops and was surprised by how many claimed, on their webpages, to actually be the best.

Two older threads caught my attention: 1) “best Cozumel dive operator?” from 2015, started by @BFEIII; the idea of a spreadsheet with info about the different dive ops was suggested with a list of criteria that grew to 38 items divers might want to know about 2) @drrich2 has a thread from 2018 with really good information about Coz dive ops - My Research Notes from Planning Cozumel Trip.

Quite often, threads still pop up about the best dive op or “who do you recommend”, so I thought I’d make my contribution and put a spreadsheet together providing information mainly for first time Coz divers to give them a starting point to find the best op for them. Interestingly, 9 of the first 13 I looked at (still) claimed to be the best in some way or another (best experience, best shop, best sites, best boats.)

My spreadsheet is of 31 ops that seem to be mentioned often in the SB threads from trip reports, roll calls, and other Coz threads. All of the info comes from the dive ops website, Facebook, TripAdvisor, and a couple of recent SB trip reports. Of course due to the pandemic, there may be discrepancies as to what is really offered at the moment. I limited the criteria so the spreadsheet could more easily be shared on SB in a pdf format. My master list is in Numbers since I have Apple products and I can share that also so a person can have it to make changes or additions for themself. The font size is 8 pt but, of course, you can zoom in to enlarge the print.

A few notes about the spreadsheet and things I learned (if you look and see something that needs correcting - @ChuckP you would be a good source since you're there!):
  • Although I used info mostly from a dive ops website, that doesn’t mean it is current. As it gets closer to when I go to Coz later in the year, I will be contacting the ops I’m going to dive with to get the latest info I want to know.
  • Row 2 shows the address of the dive op and pier it (first) leaves from. Added distance from ferry pier as people who may cruise in the future or those who ferry over from PDC often wonder which ops are nearby. Also the nearer one stays to the south generally means shorter boat rides as you are closer to the marine park.
  • If one stays at a hotel/resort with a pier that your chosen dive op picks up from, there may be a small ($2-4) pier fee to pay. It seems most of those are paid to the resort. There was at least one op website with a current list of hotels/resorts with a fee. Didn’t include it in the spreadsheet as I don’t pick where I’m staying based on a few dollar pier fee.
  • Rows 3 & 4: There are many SB requests on where to dive based on where one is staying, therefore my attempt to show hotels/resorts nearby. I could use some help on improving this info.
  • Row 5: Showed prices as they were indicated on the op website. Several have no indication whether tax is included or not. Also only showed for up to 5 days although a few ops offer a little more discount beyond that. One op showed a cheaper rate on their FaceBook page than on their website!
  • Dive With Martin, the 2021 “Best Overall” op according the Scuba Diving magazine (Marine World has the best boats), currently has a $15 surcharge per dive package until things are back to 100%. Blue XT Sea, one of the often mentioned and well-liked ops has shut down operations.
  • Row 10: The daily marine park fee price varies from website to website (whether it has updated info or not) but the current fee is US $4.50/day. Some ops show it is included in the dive price.
  • Row 11: Shore diving is often asked about on Coz, so I included whether or not shore diving is available - most at the hotel/resort that the op is located at and a few that take you to a site.
  • Row 14: Diver limit is important for many. I believe there is a marine park rule that, even if one is on a larger boat with many divers, the maximum number that can be in a group is 8. The current pandemic rules may be limiting number of divers on boats anyway.
  • Row 15: Showed dive times which are mostly the time leaving the pier. A possibility is that if one is diving with an op that leaves downtown and picks up from other hotel/resort piers the actual dive time may be 30-50 minutes from the time shown.
  • Row 16: Only a few ops use larger tanks for longer dives, 70+ minutes. Many divers can get 60+ minutes with the smaller 80cf tanks. If one is diving with a resort op, dive time, generally (but not always), is cut down to 45-50 minutes as those ops try to stay on a schedule.
  • Row 17: Did not show types of entry an op used (only 1-2 websites provided that info) but did list, where I could, boat size (large/small) and if an op had a fleet of boats. Figured small boat would be back roll and large a stride. Read that sometimes, because of weather, small boats are prohibited from going out but larger boats can. Some ops with a fleet have small and large boats. All boats indicated there was shaded area. I also indicated if there was a head available when info was provided.
  • Row 20: Showed what dive ops do during surface intervals. The first time I dove in Coz, the surface interval was at a beach bar - didn’t like it then - today I wouldn’t care.
  • Row 25: Showed courses offered by the op. Some of the OW courses are e-learning. Most ops offer much more than what I listed, but again, I am gearing this more towards first timers to Coz.
  • Row 27: A few ops indicate that they give a % discount if you pay in cash which is generally equal to the service fee they will charge on credit cards. The service fee could also be charged if using PayPal. Only 1-2 ops indicated they do not charge a service fee.
  • Row 32: I indicated if the op had a current footprint on FaceBook and TripAdvisor. Mainly it let me know people are currently diving. Of course, with TripAdvisor, all of the ops are the best, but I was able to glean a little extra info about a few of the ops.
  • Many regular Coz divers have their personal favorite op and DM. Most ops have a highly recommended DM, so didn’t list any by name.
  • Most ops show they will go to more advanced sites , such as Maracaibo or Punta Sur for a surcharge.
  • Most of the dive ops that aren’t located at a hotel/resort offer stay and dive packages with other hotels/resorts.
  • Tipping is mentioned by several ops on their webpage, with only one suggesting $10/tank and the others suggesting anywhere from $5-10/tank.
Although I’ll probably keep the number of criteria the same (I might be able to add one more row) I will include any updated info anyone has. Can also add other ops I may have missed.
What an obra, thank you. Are you planning to update this for 2022? I'm not new, but am returning after over 20 years. I'm a litle overwhelmed by the choices.
I'd also like to see (not suggesting you take on another project!) a list of top fave dive sites among S-board members, especially given the recent event there, including why a fave. I'll have about -10 dives there and of course want la creme de la creme!
 
I'd also like to see (not suggesting you take on another project!) a list of top fave dive sites among S-board members
That would warrant its own thread. We see quite a number of threads asking about the best (oh, say, top 10) dive sites in Bonaire; I don't see quite as much emphasis on Cozumel's 'best' (maybe because you'll probably go where the boat takes you, whereas Bonaire shore diving it's all up to you). I'll mention some.

From 28 total Cozumel dives (2 cruise, 26 on a trip), I like Palancar most anything. Haven't done all the Palancar sites (e.g.: don't recall hitting Palancar Caves), but the 'built up looking' structure I recall was nice. These dives tended to be deep; diving with Tres Pelicanos, a typical 4 dive day might be Dive #1 in the morning, Palancar something, then the other 3 dives elsewhere.

I did not do Devil's Throat, the big swim through with a really deep end that may push your nitrox mixes MOD (using the PPO2 1.4 standard). That's one of the big name dives.

I don't recall the name of the wreck; it's my understanding there's a main one, and the way it was discussed didn't make it seem like a big draw.

Sometimes you find things in places you didn't expect. On a grassy bed on one dive, the guide showed us a sea horse, and then we could find 'baby' sea horses in the grass (sea grass, I'm guessing). I don't remember the site name offhand. My point is, you find see a sea horse, or get a photo of a splendid toadfish, on a site that's otherwise not big on your 'must do' list.

A number of people have told me the shore dive in front of Blue Angel Resort is good (it's my understanding that's for 'critters,' not reef). So if you do shore diving, keep that in mind. I have not shore dove in Cozumel. Also haven't night dove there, but recall hearing good things.
 
It's just my opinion, but let me suggest that the competition among island ops is so intense that that would be impossible. One might narrow it down to the top 50, maybe, but I doubt that even. The top 50 would be so good that experiences would vary according to which DM was on that trip, what the luck of the dives found, what moods the DM and the customers were in, and other variables difficult to score. I just don't see it possible.

When inevitably asked by the DM where we want to go I typically let others make requests. I don't care all that much. If nobody else cares, I have a small list that I can mention that I know and have enjoyed. Palancar Caves/Horshshoe, Columbia Deep/Gardens, Delila, Punta Teniche, Tormentos, etc. But as you say, it is really day to day depending on a number of factors. The fish don't know what dive site they are on.
 
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