Final answer to PST exemption questions

[PhilEllis]

Hey SB,
If you want sunshine go back and read Steve's letter. It you want the truth read my post. Time will show I'm correct. Read the posts from Royalediver on TDS. Read the post here from PhilEllis. These guys know the whole story.

I don't know who you are, but you sure do have a lot of industry knowledge. Maybe a Pressed Steel insider? I think it is very unfortunate that Pressed Steel is in the position it is in, but I personally don't see much sunshine in the new company PST Cylinders, LLC. I expect we MAY eventually see some cylinders manufacturered off-shore under the PST name, but even that is doubtful. Given the quality and marketing effort of the Worthington cylinders, it will be a hard road for them to recover any market share.

There is a lot of debate about what is and what isn't the truth about the E-9791 special permit, but from everything I can gather, those exemptions are manufacturing site and company specific. I am afraid that what under3483 says is correct.......trouble is on the horizon for cylinders with that stamp. Anyway, another sad story from our industry.

Phil Ellis

 

[PerroneFord]

I'm feeling better and better about my pending 108 or 121 Worthington order! Hey Phil, shoot me a PM with prices for those two Cylinders. I don't need valves, I don't need them cleaned, and I'll pick them up unless you still ship free.

(by the way my Vyper kicks butt.. thanks)

 

[PhilEllis]

I'm feeling better and better about my pending 108 or 121 Worthington order! Hey Phil, shoot me a PM with prices for those two Cylinders. I don't need valves, I don't need them cleaned, and I'll pick them up unless you still ship free.

(by the way my Vyper kicks butt.. thanks)

PerroneFord, I not only ship free, but I am getting ready to introduce a special deal on three of the Worthington cylinder sizes.....the X7-100, X7-119, and X7-130.....I will probably be posting it on ScubaBoard tomorrow or Thursday. But if you call now, I will give you a head start on the deal. Thanks.

Phil Ellis

 

[PerroneFord]

None of those sizes work for me.. but thanks.

-P

 

[PhilEllis]

YGM

Phil Ellis

 

[CompuDude]

PerroneFord, I not only ship free, but I am getting ready to introduce a special deal on three of the Worthington cylinder sizes.....the X7-100, X7-119, and X7-130.....I will probably be posting it on ScubaBoard tomorrow or Thursday. But if you call now, I will give you a head start on the deal. Thanks.

You're just determined to make me postpone my drysuit purchase again, aren't you?

 

[PhilEllis]

You're just determined to make me postpone my drysuit purchase again, aren't you?

I will be announcing my new special in the next few days. But if you phone me now, I will let you in on the deal today. You will like it.

(but you gotta promise not to sue me)

Thanks

Phil Ellis

 

[SparticleBrane]

Send me two X8-119s and I'll send you fresh new crisp $10 bill. How's that for a deal!

 

[oxyhacker]

No debate at all, if by debate you making an case by an orderly presentation of supporting facts. So far we have seen several people citing what the DOT Special Permits branch, has told them, and other alluding to, without any detail, what unnamed "sources" have supposedly told them that contradicts the DOT. When asked to identify their sources or provide citations for their claims they are unable to. Since the DOT SP branch are the people who actually issue the exemptions and renewals, you will excuse me if I chose to believe them rather than unnamed sources.

But this has been covered many times here, and you don't have to take my word for it. I never can understand why people in the dive industry who ought to know better will so often spread rumor, speculation, and even misinformation, rather than just pick up a phone and find out the facts - if you really would like to know whether the new PST can renew the exemptions, just call the DOT Special Permit people at 202-366-6344. I, and others here, have, and have been told repeatedly that there is no problem renewing or reissuing the old PST exemptions to the new company. They have also told us that even if PST didn't, another party would be able to have the exemption renewed to them with a minimum of hassle. If you have any credible information to contradict them, by all means post it.

There is a lot of debate about what is and what isn't the truth about the E-9791 special permit, but from everything I can gather, those exemptions are manufacturing site and company specific. I am afraid that what under3483 says is correct.......trouble is on the horizon for cylinders with that stamp. Anyway, another sad story from our industry.

Phil Ellis

 

[SparticleBrane]

Seriously--if there's a problem getting that exemption renewed something tells me there'd be a mass uprising of divers and an angry mob somewhere.