Question Faber sold in Europe can't be tested in the US?

[Scared Silly]

How did you pay for them? See what "protection" you might via. Otherwise, take the person to small claims court.

 

[runsongas]

i would love to see an episode of judge judy about this

 

[Scuba-74]

How did you pay for them? See what "protection" you might via. Otherwise, take the person to small claims court.

Cash, unfortunately.

Just spoke to the PD, and they’ve said the same thing - small claims court. I’ll stop by there and see how much the filing fee is at least.

 

[Scuba-74]

It won't help, but if the guy is active in that local community, I'd probably put a new post at the top of the group warning people about a local who knowingly sold tanks that couldn't be filled. Might save someone else from the hassle of dealing with a less-than-reputable group member.

He didn't "tell stories", he outright lied and sold you goods knowing they weren't fit for the intended purpose. I don't think any breach of implied warranty torts apply to used person-to-person transactions, but if you have contact information for the guy I wonder if you could drag him into small claims court just for spite. You've got some documentation, proof that he admitted to "telling stories", and that he passed a "bad purchase" onto you. I'm no lawyer, but I just sorta feel like a small claims court judge might just slam the gavel down on that one in your favor.

He left the New England Scuba Divers FB group today, and he was a “top contributor” there. I posted there and got a lot of support.

Might do the same on a local business FB group, he’s “top” there too. Such a standup guy, smh

At least this picture of him doesn’t lie

 

[happy-diver]

Mate just put the tanks in a corner until you score a compressor or someone with one and forget it

It's those that lack control that end up in the Big House with Bubba

 

[OMyMyOHellYes]

Standby ....

We didn't get to see the tank stampings. On the outside margin, is there any chance they were ISO or UN certified?

UN/ISO tanks are legit in the US and their inspection procedure and criteria are discussed in detail in the PSI/PCI inspector course and training materials. I am not a hydro authority, and I can't vouch for the veracity of the following, but I did some kindergarten-grade googleating and found this site - a hydro tester in your general neighborhood (+/- 40 miles?):

What is an ISO tank? Can you test them? – Paintball Hydro-Testing

I have found, however, that the technical expertise re: hydro rules and specifications is all over the place and there are a lot of testers that will improperly refuse testing simply because they have no fracking idea what the specifics of the DOT / CFR rules allow/require. It often takes some significant digging to find knowledgable hydrotesters. Also, if testing requirements/procedures differ, it is possible that a knowlegeable retester may not have the proper equipment to complete testing.

Also cogently discussed in another SB thread: Advice Needed on Newly Acquired Faber Steel Tanks with Unfamiliar Markings

Separately -

 

[Badger7]

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Thanks for sharing this info, never seen cylinders with those markings, but bookmarked for future reference!

Two other thoughts, interested in your opinion:

Burst disk requirement? I think we all know that you're not actually going to get a DOT ticket if Johnny Law pulls you over and you have a scuba tank in the truck bed lacking a burst disk. But, lets say you could get a cylnder with ISO vs DOT markings a fresh hydro and VIP. I have had fill stations refuse to fill aluminum pony bottles that had a 5250psi burst disk instead of the generally accepted 5000psi value, I can only imagine seeing the wierd metric Y valves with no burst disc assembly would be very likely to get the "aint gonna do it" from your average fill station? Just like most 3/4NPT valves would have burst disks, pretty sure most/all M25 valves would not?

Similar note, and I have absolutely no idea - if you found a hydro facility willing to re-test a cylinder with ISO markings, would they have the correct fitting for the M25 valve threads?

 

[OMyMyOHellYes]

Thanks for sharing this info, never seen cylinders with those markings, but bookmarked for future reference!

Two other thoughts, interested in your opinion:

Burst disk requirement? I think we all know that you're not actually going to get a DOT ticket if Johnny Law pulls you over and you have a scuba tank in the truck bed lacking a burst disk. But, lets say you could get a cylnder with ISO vs DOT markings a fresh hydro and VIP. I have had fill stations refuse to fill aluminum pony bottles that had a 5250psi burst disk instead of the generally accepted 5000psi value, I can only imagine seeing the wierd metric Y valves with no burst disc assembly would be very likely to get the "aint gonna do it" from your average fill station? Just like most 3/4NPT valves would have burst disks, pretty sure most/all M25 valves would not?

Similar note, and I have absolutely no idea - if you found a hydro facility willing to re-test a cylinder with ISO markings, would they have the correct fitting for the M25 valve threads?

I don't think ISO bottles do not always imply M25 threads. Maybe. Maybe not? Note the markings above show 3/4-14 NGT.

I've never encountered a UN/ISO bottle in the wild, so that is why I am particularly keen to see the markings on OP's bottles.

The the hydro shop I referenced above (by a stroke of luck, it is actually local to the OP) says specifically

I expect they are up to speed regulatory requirements and hardware, whatever those are, 3/4 or M25.

 

[Scuba-74]

Standby ....

We didn't get to see the tank stampings. On the outside margin, is there any chance they were ISO or UN certified?

UN/ISO tanks are legit in the US and their inspection procedure and criteria are discussed in detail in the PSI/PCI inspector course and training materials. I am not a hydro authority, and I can't vouch for the veracity of the following, but I did some kindergarten-grade googleating and found this site - a hydro tester in your general neighborhood (+/- 40 miles?):

Thank you for this info. No UN circle marking unfortunately on these tanks, just as no mentioning of "psi" or "usa" as on the picture in your post. Attached are the markings from these tanks, which are made for European market exclusively it seems.

 

[Scuba-74]

Similar note, and I have absolutely no idea - if you found a hydro facility willing to re-test a cylinder with ISO markings, would they have the correct fitting for the M25 valve threads?

Great point, I was thinking just that yesterday.