Mike Boswell
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I took my crotch strap carefully out of its wrapping and dropped it in the trash. Maybe some people need them, for some reason I am unaware of, but I don't.
Donning a BP/W with crotch strap
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Bubbletrubble
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IMO, there is no entanglement hazard even if the crotchstrap is behind/inside of the buckle. Once the buckle is fully opened, it should slide very easily through the loop of the crotchstrap.
This is my preferred method of donning my single tank rig. I don't need a buddy, though. It's also how all my dive buddies do it. Once I stand up, the crotchstrap is dangling between my legs. I simply reach down, grab the crotchstrap, and slide the loop over the waist harness buckle. No big deal.
That seems like a waste of a perfectly good piece of gear. I'd be happy to take the unused crotchstrap off of your hands (if someone hasn't already taken away the trash). I believe we live in the same area.
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I also only dive singles with my BP/W. I tried it with and without the crouch strap and found that strap to be an unnecessary PITA. Without the crouch strap. the rig might want to ride up a bit on the surface, but not to the point where it is unmanageable. I just pull down a bit on the waist strap and it is fine.
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Peter_C
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Many would consider this misinformation, including myself.
These should help!
DIR-diver.com - Adjust the backplate
http://gue.com/?q=en/Equipment/Config/index.html
Thank you very much for all the input... I think I got a better understanding on how to don the rig!
Another question. Do you put the waist release buckle on your right or left waist strap? I watched the scubatoys assembly video and they suggest to put it on the right strap to provide a left hand release. The reason they give for this is to be able to figure out by touch if you have grabbed your harness buckle (left hand release) or your weight belt (right hand release). From the pictures at BAUE for example, they seem to favor a right hand release...
so, do you put the release buckle on your right or left waist stap? right or left hand release?
your help is really very very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Another question. Do you put the waist release buckle on your right or left waist strap? I watched the scubatoys assembly video and they suggest to put it on the right strap to provide a left hand release. The reason they give for this is to be able to figure out by touch if you have grabbed your harness buckle (left hand release) or your weight belt (right hand release). From the pictures at BAUE for example, they seem to favor a right hand release...
so, do you put the release buckle on your right or left waist stap? right or left hand release?
your help is really very very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Peter_C
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You must be referring to these images.
Equipment Images
That is a standardization of the HOG aka Hogarthian gear configuration and is set up that way for a reason. Everything has been tested, checked, rechecked and modified into that form by some of the most experienced divers in the world. It is the configuration "most" back plate and wing divers use. The system is the one I personally use and find it works very well for our style of diving. To be clear, my buckle is mounted on my left waist strap, passes through the crotch strap winding up on my right side.
Equipment Images
That is a standardization of the HOG aka Hogarthian gear configuration and is set up that way for a reason. Everything has been tested, checked, rechecked and modified into that form by some of the most experienced divers in the world. It is the configuration "most" back plate and wing divers use. The system is the one I personally use and find it works very well for our style of diving. To be clear, my buckle is mounted on my left waist strap, passes through the crotch strap winding up on my right side.
My buckle is set on the right side with a right hand release:
like this http://dir-diver.com/pics/backplate/waistbelt_large.jpg
It is set far right so I know exactly where it is and in the heat of things I cannot mistakenly release it when I reach for the weight belt( when I wear one. )
reason is it is a right hand pull. I usually have a light in my left hand so the right hand is free. The weight belt goes on after I have adjusted my harness and crotch strap. This way there are no obstructions if I have to release the weight belt.
I place the buckle more to the left side opposite my rig buckle and leave it as a right hand pull.
like this http://dir-diver.com/pics/backplate/waistbelt_large.jpg
It is set far right so I know exactly where it is and in the heat of things I cannot mistakenly release it when I reach for the weight belt( when I wear one. )
reason is it is a right hand pull. I usually have a light in my left hand so the right hand is free. The weight belt goes on after I have adjusted my harness and crotch strap. This way there are no obstructions if I have to release the weight belt.
I place the buckle more to the left side opposite my rig buckle and leave it as a right hand pull.
I just simply lean over and reach between my legs, grab the crotch strap loop and slide the crotch strap over the waist buckle. Your issue is you need to leave the "loop" in the crotch strap large enough to slip over the waist strap buckle but small enough that it does not fall off easily, a happy medium.
The buckle does go on the left, the free end is on the right, the crotch strap loop goes on the left waist side so the waist buckle acts as a catch, I believe your instructions probably gave it that way also. When the waist strap is cinched down the buckle is not on center but well to the right of your belly button, the crotch strap is slipped to on center, knife on the left, captive etc.
An overhead don will swing the crotch strap up through my legs and I simply grab it and slip it over the waist strap buckle, done dealio.
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The buckle does go on the left, the free end is on the right, the crotch strap loop goes on the left waist side so the waist buckle acts as a catch, I believe your instructions probably gave it that way also. When the waist strap is cinched down the buckle is not on center but well to the right of your belly button, the crotch strap is slipped to on center, knife on the left, captive etc.
An overhead don will swing the crotch strap up through my legs and I simply grab it and slip it over the waist strap buckle, done dealio.
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dkktsunami
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I really must be misunderstanding this discussion but it sounds as if the OP has fastened his crotch strap first, is trying to step into the strap, and then insert his arms in the harness. This would be somewhat akin to trying to jump into a pair of pants, both legs at one time, while holding them by the belt. I will go back and re-read, maybe after a cocktail it will make more sense.
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