Diving "Etiquette" and the lack thereof

[ScubaSteve]

It sounded ("read") like a pull dump that was pulled off.

More like a corrugated(?)hose failing/breaking or something like that.

I read it the same way as Jeff. Again, without proper information we are left to speculate. Where is the problem again?

 

[JeffG]

More like a corrugated(?)hose failing/breaking or something like that.

6 of this a half dozen of the other.

Same end result.

 

[mikemill]

6 of this a half dozen of the other.

Same end result.

Kinda depends. If it is one of the butt dumps you aren't as screwed as the hose or shoulder dump.

Edit: Thinking of it, if the hose is still in place and it is just a dump valve stuck open you can always contort yourself so the valve is the lowest point and still be able to put some air in the BC and have it stay.

 

[IceBergSlim]

Short review:

The OP wants validation for condeming a random diver for not providing the proper assistance to her/his buddy when they were having a problem that would have been easily dealt with by any novice.

The OP tried to claim the distressed diver had advanced credentials and that was suposed to be some sort of ticket to greater service from his/her fellow divers.

The distressed diver made an odd choice in chosing to do a CESA rather than fix his/her problem while at depth.

The Op was nowhere near her her buddy during all of this.

Is that correct?

 

[300bar]

6 of this a half dozen of the other.

Same end result.

I only have One of them.When the hose fails,you can do whatever you like,it won't inflate your BC.

 

[DandyDon]

Short review:

The OP wants validation for condeming a random diver for not providing the proper assistance to her/his buddy when they were having a problem that would have been easily dealt with by any novice.

The OP tried to claim the distressed diver had advanced credentials and that was suposed to be some sort of ticket to greater service from his/her fellow divers.

The distressed diver made an odd choice in chosing to do a CESA rather than fix his/her problem while at depth.

The Op was nowhere near her her buddy during all of this.

Is that correct?

Well we need the Master Diver himself posting to clarify all that I think. Of course you know that a MD card means that he was willing to pay for all of the cards mostly, but 200+ dives says more. By that ranger, it's difficult to blame others for our own screwups; much easier rationalization earlier on.

I've had inflator hose problems at depth and at surface, just fixed those or orally inflated depending, and I have been down with too much weight at times, but I've never had a dump valve come loose - if that was the case?? If it was, and I was overweight, and my buddy was not in the buddy position to assist me, I would indeed see getting to surface at my primary goal - so dropping some lead might have been the thing to do. Better than trying something else and not getting there. I'd even file a claim with DAN to pay for the lost pouch and lead in this accident.

 

[miketsp]

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Another diver came and pointed out that his inflator hose had come loose and then swam off.

To answer the OP question that diver, in my opinion, did the wrong thing also. If you see another diver having difficulty under water it is your duty as a good diver and a human being to try to help them out. The assisting diver should have signaled his buddy to come over and help also. That is like seeing someone pulled over with a flat tire and stopping to tell them they have a flat tire then driving off. Is it an emergency? No, but it still makes them an a$$hole.

You complain about the various posters and then without knowing anything about the diver that came to help you call him/her an a$$hole.

The OP said this was a drift dive. She also said the diver in difficulties had over 200 dives but was planted on his knees in the sand.
So it's more than likely that the diver that came over had to do so against a current while his buddy was still drifting away down current.
It sounds like this other diver didn't see anyone in panic or asking for help - just appearing to be confused about something that was not visible.
It sounds like the hose had just pulled off the fitting - something absolutely trivial to resolve once you know where to look. Even if the hose had torn it was just a case of putting the opening at the lowest point and using the BC as a lift bag.
The other diver's first priority is to their buddy unless they see a life threatening situation.
Even then, if they didn't have rescue training they may well have been oriented during their course to approach a diver in difficulties with extreme caution and may have felt that providing any assistance was beyond their capability.

There are always 3 sides to any story.

 

[C-stone]

Read what I posted agian mikestp. I clearly stated that the assisting diver should not leave his buddy but singnal his buddy that they are going to help a diver having problems.

I am not going to argue semantics here. My point, which I clearly stated was my opinion, is:

If you see a diver having problems the correct course of action is to signal YOUR dive buddy to follow you over and assist said diver having problems.

 

[ScubaJoy65]

Lots to learn if you read in between all the pissy and petty comments... I can almost see the men pounding their chests and grunting... it's comical...

I'll keep reading your postings but I'm done responding. This has turned into a pissing match... and since I don't play that game - - have fun everyone!

 

[DandyDon]

Lots to learn if you read in between all the pissy and petty comments... I can almost see the men pounding their chests and grunting... it's comical...

Female poster confirmed. Maybe some other lady divers would like to help out here since we don't speak girl talk?

Yeah, learning is the thing here. We like it to be fun, but most of all do learn.