Divers getting bent

[wolf eel]

zboss Go back to skool... nobody forces anybody to do anything of the sort. I'm not a fan of cheney but the man earned his money like a good capitalist and dosn't need to give it to anyone. I am sure his portfolio is full of donations to all sorts of charities, he probably donates more money in one year than I will ever in my lifetime.

What school is that ? Also I have never been a fan of any person making money on war that throughs the balance of what is right for the people and what is right for the company and you need to test and do R&D which costs money unless you test it in the field for real. Nobody needs to make 24 billion every two days or something like that ? The first 24 sure past that put the rest into the world you are fighting to save maybe we would not need to fight as long. Also off topic but needs to be said I agree with the movement to shut down these out of control countries.

You can't save the world with money. Period. Even Bill Gates, donating BILLIONS a year makes such a tiny impact. The only thing that will keep people alive and proposering is science and invention.

Yes you can if the money is spent right.

Half the time these folks simply see "help" from visitors as "interference" and "American's with their fancy cars and big ideas". Frankly - they don't WANT to be bothered.

Thats because we impose our lives into thier worlds and expect them to live like us.

 

[pilot fish]

What school is that ? Also I have never been a fan of any person making money on war that throughs the balance of what is right for the people and what is right for the company and you need to test and do R&D which costs money unless you test it in the field for real. Nobody needs to make 24 billion every two days or something like that ? The first 24 sure past that put the rest into the world you are fighting to save maybe we would not need to fight as long. Also off topic but needs to be said I agree with the movement to shut down these out of control countries.
Yes you can if the money is spent right.
Thats because we impose our lives into thier worlds and expect them to live like us.

Wolf eel, please stick to diving topics. American politics and our Vice President are obviously not your forte'

 

[H2Andy]

Countries like Nicaragua have no interest in sustainable living unless 'sustainable' means they will have enough for this week.

well, i think the problem is that (a) there is little to invest to make a better
tomorrow and (b) there is a very pressing need to solve the immediate problems of survival

it's not that they don't have an interest in making a sustainable living; it's that
they haven't solved the problem of subsistance yet.

 

[wolf eel]

pilot fish Wolf eel, please stick to diving topics. American politics and our Vice President are obviously not your forte'

You are right sorry about that. Um did I say something that was not accurate all ? Just asking. But that and many of the oil wealthy Alberta folks should also be spending some of that billion a day back into what they are taking from. I did not mean what i said as an insult at all. It was just how much money does anybody need and at a certain point you should have to put very large sum of it back to the world and I mean the world that would also include the any other people who make that kind of money then just maybe we could put a stop to all the nonsense. We would have the cash flow. That was not again against an American just a guy who makes loads of money his name was just at mind when I posted he just happens to be American. Their was a qoute with my comments.
Do not take it out of context thanks.

 

[derwoodwithasherwood]

The course is a huge expendature and the Goveren bodies do not help.

I've heard that elsewhere too. I know a few commercial divers in BC, including my brother.

And all of your saftey procedure you spoke of never happen. NO inforcement. More people have died or had troubles since the course which is mandatory and we have less farms go figure. The divers in the third world may dive with less gear and knowledge but we do the same dive profile here which makes it the same to a point.

Now this is the part that has me confused. BC divers have the knowledge to plan a safe profile, yet they dive unsafe profiles because there's no government enforcer hanging around? Is that by choice or are employers coerceing them into unsafe diving?

And as for WCB they suck all round.

Again, I've heard that elsewhere too. Isn't that all the more reason to avoid injury in the first place?

 

[wolf eel]

derwoodwithasherwood Now this is the part that has me confused. BC divers have the knowledge to plan a safe profile, yet they dive unsafe profiles because there's no government enforcer hanging around? Is that by choice or are employers coerceing them into unsafe diving?

Yeah the diver can make more money depends on how they are being paid by the pen or contract by the system. It is also in the best interest of the company to have the divers work the farm at the same time. You dive your profile then load two tons of feed. They also dive without the safety gear that is required and out dive the profile all the time. have you looked at the stats about farm dive accidents ? And you have to wonder how many never have been reported. I would dive a system alone as in nobody on the farm at all. Solo farm diving is common.

Again, I've heard that elsewhere too. Isn't that all the more reason to avoid injury in the first place?

Do people hurt themselves so they don't have to work ? I would think people do not. But we all need to make a buck to pay the bills. When you have an accident they should do their job as we need them and they are paid to help the worker.

As for the divers down south they dive for pay and break the limits to make more money its called paying the bill and being able to afford a pint at the end of the day.

 

[Dochueb]

Mmmmm...






...wolverine testicles...

 

[Web Monkey]

Mmmmm...

...wolverine testicles...

I guess I've started a new fad!

Terry

 

[zboss]

well, i think the problem is that (a) there is little to invest to make a better
tomorrow and (b) there is a very pressing need to solve the immediate problems of survival

it's not that they don't have an interest in making a sustainable living; it's that
they haven't solved the problem of subsistance yet.

I poorly worded my response to that matter, I should have said something along the lines of what you said... in reality, it's about survival and to most folks that are willing to go to the extremes that were mentioned at the start of this thread, its about getting food on the table today and tomorrow.

 

[Sideband]

NOBODY is pulling in a billion a day, let alone 24 billion. To put it into perspective, the world's richest man, Bill Gates, is worth ~$46 billion. Not that that isn't a buttload of money but he didn't make it in just over a month and it isn't liquid. It is his value on paper at the current state of the market. From Forbes, "World's biggest philanthropist also devoting $27 billion to good deeds. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation fights infectious diseases (hepatitis B, AIDS), funds vaccine development, helps high schools."