Diver missing for 7 years recovered on Wilhelm Gustloff

[divad]

Are we forgetting that the deceased was a willing party to the deception from the get go? Had it been one of his buddies instead of himself, wouldn't it be likely that he'd have "lied" as well?

Yes.

 

[caruso]

Even if they aren't prosecuted for the unintentional death and perjury they should face consequences for diving on protected wrecks- which they apparently do quite often. "Screw the law and the fact that it's a dedicated mass grave, we're going diving!".

 

[Hiszpan]

Even if they aren't prosecuted for the unintentional death and perjury they should face consequences for diving on protected wrecks- which they apparently do quite often. "Screw the law and the fact that it's a dedicated mass grave, we're going diving!".

They can't - like I mentioned before, that " crime" expires after 5 years in Polish judicial system.

 

[dmaziuk]

This seems needlessly vindictive. Even if they'd confessed, his body still might not have been recovered any sooner, and even if it was, I'm sure the family still would have grieved his loss.

Furthermore if they were doing that regularly, the family may well have known it was a different wreck. Possibly since the planning stage.

 

[Banan]

Furthermore if they were doing that regularly, the family may well have known it was a different wreck. Possibly since the planning stage.

But that's the whole point. Reports say the family knew where he was going and have been trying to convince the authorities to look in the right place. But that didn't happen because the only witnesses' reports gave no grounds to do that. It took an accidental discovery to finally close this.

The family didn't try to stop Robert before the dive because as non-divers the name 'Gustloff' didn't raise any red flags to them until it was mentioned again after the accident. From what I know that was his first dive there by the way, unlike some others in the group and the skipper who took them there.

I don't think anyone here is blaming the 'buddies' for the accident itself or saying they forced Robert to dive an illegal site. But they put rescuers' lives in unnecessary danger and wasted resources by knowingly sending them to the wrong site as well as added immensely to the family's ordeal.

Even if they'd confessed, his body still might not have been recovered any sooner

It would have likely been recovered right away. There was a search party that was literally diving the wrong wreck shortly after the accident. We also won't ever know if he could have been saved if help had been called immediately instead of after a couple of hours and to the wrong area.

Perhaps I'm also assuming too much in hoping his family's reaction toward his friends would be more generous than yours.

Well, you can just accept that you were assuming too much. What the family have said in public/social media suggests the lies and deceit put them through hell and getting to the truth was massively important for them. It doesn't seem like they have much sympathy for the other divers either.

 

[Esprise Me]

Where are you getting this information?

 

[michael-fisch]

Where are you getting this information?

Unfortunatly If he told you, he would have to kill you.
Some things are Top Secret - Special Compartmentalized Information and are not to be seen without holding a TS-SCI clearance, which 90% of the holders of a Top Secret clearance don't have.
The information may be Top Secret, but knowing how and from whom it was obtained requires a much higher clearance.

Michael

 

[Vicko]

Funny thing is that everyone knew that the guy died on the Gustof, just no one wanted to find the body so the wreck does not get closed again.

 

[Banan]

Where are you getting this information?

Media, social media, dive forums, the usual. This case was rather widely discussed in Poland - both 7 years ago and recently, so information is available. To make your life easier (or harder depending on how well google translation turns out) you can start here:

Szczątki nurka w okolicach Łeby. To prawdopodobnie Robert Szlecht - Trójmiasto (this is pretty detailed)
Nurkowanie - FORUM-NURAS :: Zobacz temat - Szczątki nurka na Gustloffie. To prawdopodobnie Robert Szlec
Zobacz temat - Apel o pomoc w poszukiwaniach
http://forum-nuras.com/viewtopic.php?t=29958 (this one unfortunately requires logging in - it's the original AAI thread on that forum - but includes posts from one of the buddies as well as the deceased's family)
Makabryczne odkrycie we wraku - ciało nurka tkwiło w nim kilka lat
Baltictech (incl. some of the family's comments in the comment section).
Robert Szlecht | Divers24.pl
Badanie DNA potwierdza: We wraku Gustloffa były zwłoki Roberta Szlechta
Zaginięcie Roberta Szlechta. To jego zwłoki znaleziono we wraku Gustloffa - Trójmiasto
http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomo...raku-gusloffa-naleza-do-roberta-szlechta.html
https://www.rmf24.pl/fakty/news-fra...ali-w-rejonie-wraku-statku-wilhel,nId,3050786 (about the French divers who first spotted the body)

These few links pretty much sum it up so far, though you can find more.

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Was that a very German attempt at humour?

no one wanted to find the body so the wreck does not get closed again.

The wreck is closed regardless of the accident as a war grave. It's an agreement between Poland and Germany. Baltictech divers who found him had a permit.

 

[DeepSeaExplorer]

A body could easily drift 7 clicks in 7 years.