Disturbing trend in diving?

[dmaziuk]

Isn’t this all covered by the bit of PADI standards that says ‘certified to dive in conditions equal to or better than those in which they were trained’?

We learn in the pool. We only do checkout dives in open water. So by that reading of the standard, PADI OWs are only certified to dive in pools and bathtubs.

 

[therookie]

We learn in the pool. We only do checkout dives in open water. So by that reading of the standard, PADI OWs are only certified to dive in pools and bathtubs.

Except not all of us learn in a pool. Even my "confined water" was in the ocean, just a sheltered enough area that it could loosely be considered "confined water"

 

[dmaziuk]

Except not all of us learn in a pool. Even my "confined water" was in the ocean, just a sheltered enough area that it could loosely be considered "confined water"

Congrats, you are qualified to dive in a "supervised bathing areas" as well as pools and bathtubs. That's one better than me.

 

[jellycatsdad]

As a “new” diver who was certified in cold and hasn’t dive in warm places… yet I can say my cold water training and exposure has prepared me mentally. Moving around in all that neoprene isn’t fun and it takes longer to gear up but that also means we take a little longer to buddy check each other and we’re used to rougher exits and entries. I’m at a point where I need to navigate better but I’m not dependent on a DM/guide for my metrics. I did have a computer fail on me in Monterey so I had to be close to my guide. Trust me, it wasn’t great.

 

[The Chairman]

My first instructor never got in the water with me. He yelled at me from the side of the pool, berating me for every mistake real or imagined. He kept telling me I was going to die, die I tell you, if I didn't get it figured out. No, he wasn't a certified instructor, but boy did I learn to figure stuff out on my own, or I would get yelled at... again.

 

[boulderjohn]

I never claimed a randomly assigned buddy was successfully sued. Please read more carefully.

Silly me. I misread this post:

In the US divers have been sued following an accident involving a random assigned buddy.

 

[Leatherboot69]

We learn in the pool. We only do checkout dives in open water. So by that reading of the standard, PADI OWs are only certified to dive in pools and bathtubs.

That’s literally not true, by any reading of PADI standards

 

[boulderjohn]

That’s literally not true, by any reading of PADI standards

He's just trying to finesse the word "training" by saying the OW dive is for checkout and not part of training. Everyone else, of course, considers it part of the training.

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

My OW instructor sat on a lounge chair with a Marlboro and a cup of coffee and showed my buddy and I a place in the lake, under a bridge to navigate to. It was 65 feet deep he said. Once we got there we were to surface and wave to him proving we made it. He then lit another Marlboro.

So now tell me things are worse.

 

[therookie]

My OW instructor sat on a lounge chair with a Marlboro and a cup of coffee and showed my buddy and I a place in the lake, under a bridge to navigate to. It was 65 feet deep he said. Once we got there we were to surface and wave to him proving we made it. He then lit another Marlboro.

So now tell me things are worse.

Well if I had had any doubts before, this little gem would have made me feel much better about the quality of my OW certification in the tropics!