DIR... what is it, or who are they???

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Pete,

Just so you don't have to read between the lines a quote from Bill Gavin on dive gear: a diver must "settle for nothing less than perfection. Those who do will discover on their own the value of such effort. Those who do not will never understand what the others are talking about".

Brad

 
The above conviction is why, in my opinion, so many rec divers don't like DIR.

DIR diving is the result of a very systematic approach to eliminating as many points of pontential failure as possible during a dive. These points of failure can be in gear, where most of discussion seems to revolve (a mistake I believe), physical and mental fitness, dive planning, gas mixing, etc. This approach was developled by the Woodville Karst Plain Project in responses to the extreme exposures they were dealing with in exploring the underwter caves of Wakulla Springs, Fl. Diving 18,000 ft linear penetrations at 300+ ft while incurring a 6 to 9 hour deco obligation is not a good time to question the fitness of you, your gear, your buddy or your buddy's gear.

In response to these conditions, DIR diving evolved around the following ideas (this only a partial list):

1) Very careful dive planning - to the point that, strictly speaking, computers are considered not DIR although most DIR divers own and dive with computers while within NDL limits. Accidentally exceeding those limits is simply the height "stokeness" as is the resulting unplanned deco (better hope you have enough gas ;) ).

2) Mental and physical fitness - being a fat, out of shape, smoking, barely able to swim, pre-dive beer swilling diver (all of which I used to be) is not DIR.

3) Extreme buddy awareness - DIR divers know where their buddy is and how they're doing at all times. Unplanned or accidental buddy seperation is not acceptable. Technically, solo-diving is very non-DIR.

4) A "balanced" standardized hograthian gear configuration - Balanced, as I understand the term, means a diver can swim from their planned MOD to the surface or to the first deco stop with full tanks and no gas in their bc after ditching what ever ditchable weight they might have. If you can't do the above then you shouldn't be doing that dive (see point #2). Generally speaking, DIR doesn't consider a dry suit a secondary bcd. Also given the above, redundant wings, bladders, inflators, etc. are viewed as nothing more than additional failure and entanglement points, as well extra equipment and task loading at depth.

The above are some of the underpinning of DIR diving. When I got back into diving after several years out of it I stumbled on to DIR diving because I was looking into getting a backplate. After further study of the system and philosophy and diving with divers who dive DIR, I am convinvced that it is simply the SAFEST way to dive not the only way to dive but the safest. And that's good enough for me.

So what do other divers have against DIR? I think a lot of the dislike stems for two main sources. First, is the explict conclusion that if I'm "Doing It Right" then, if you dive differently, you're "Doing It Wrong" and by extention your training is wrong, your gear is wrong, and your mindset is wrong. What that means in DIR slang is you are a "stroke" (aka a fundentmentally unsafe diver who is a danger both him/her self and their buddy). Couple that with DIR rule #1: "Don't dive with storkes" and you can see an us vs. them situation developing. How true the above statement is about any given diver is determined to a much greater extent by training, mindset, and preparation than by gear, in my opinion. Most people don't like to be told that they're wrong. It turns people off and pisses them off, especailly after they've spent, in some cases, many thousand of dollars.

The second reason is simply, as stated in one of the above post, George's demeanor. Don't get me wrong, George, JJ and co. are some of the best and most experienced divers in the world, they're just not very forgiving, to say the least (some would not doubt say unneccessarily(sp?) mean), of fools, ignorance, and stupidity and are quick to let you know when they think your post is just that. Just try posting a "stupid" question on the dir-quest list and see how quickly and brutally you get beat down (worse yet is to post a response to a question and get the anwser wrong). This problem is made worse by the fact that are no real good introductory text to DIR diving. You just got to jump in and take your lumps with the rest of us newbies. Yes, the list is intimadating. Yes, the responses can be cruel and mean spirted. No, they don't care if they've hurt you're feelings. And no they don't if you join their ranks. If you want a touchie feely diver support list you're looking in the wrong place. However, I am coming to believe that if the discourse on the quest list rattles you probably shouldn't be doing the types of dives these guys do. Clearly, dir-quest needs a stroke list in very bad way.

All of the above is tragic beacause, I believe, DIR is the safest way to dive and clearly has the potential to save lives.

As Don said read all you can, expose yourself to it as much as possible, learn as much as you can, dive with DIR divers but remember you have to come to DIR, it/they will not come to you. They don't recruit.

I challenge you to find safer way to dive. I don't think you can.

Lord, I was born ramblin' man,
Sam

P.S. As far as the marketing of DIR bear in mind, that Halcyon and Extreme Exposure were founded on DIR principles because the WKPP couldn't find equipment to meet their specifications so they started their own companies with the help of Bronwies. For most companies, yeah, DIR a marketing ploy or an effort to jump on a bandwagon but in the case of Halcyon and EE if it weren't for DIR diving and the WKPP they wouldn't exist. Simple as that.

P.P.S. I am a relative DIR newbie. While all of the above is correct to best of my knowledge, it could also be all wrong. Peace.
 
Hi again NetDoc..

I never spoke whether i was for or against DIR.

Well in my opinion DIR is just another gear configuration which uses the long hose primarily designed for diving in small/narrow spaces. I am neither for or against DIR, and if you have enough common sense you will pick out the best parts from different configurations and use what best suits yourself for the conditions in which you dive.

 
Aegir,
You missed the point altogether, this is not a poll of who likes it or who hates it, it was just a response to a question from NetDoc, asking what it is. And like so many you have formed an opinion without being informed.

ID
 
Hey All,

Well, I can see we are of varied opinions here and that's good! The light can not be really appreciated until it is compared to the darkness. Still, I did ask what it was and did not specifically ask for an opinion as to whether you agreed with it or not. I was perplexed, that opinions were not given in the two original posts, and so I mentioned that as well. Both stated how they lookeed on the DIR movement, one directly, the other with a quote. I respect ALL of the opinions stated here and did NOT mean to pit one against the other. I learned a lot in these past few days, and I hope to learn a lot more... both why some follow and why some don't.

I always feel its more important to figure out WHAT is right and not dwell on WHO is right. It puts truth first and egos second. I feel it is right for both sides to feel strongly in their beliefs... it's what makes you strive to do your best. Consequently, even though I lean to the other direction, I really have an open mind to what the DIR crowd has to offer. Very rarely do I find only one group in possesion of the entire truth, and I can glean much from what they propose. Who knows, one day I may not be a "stroker", although I am clearly one now. I do love inovation, and I do not beleive that I will ever own the "perfect set-up". No, thats a holy grail for me, and half the fun is in trying out new things and even inventing/building them as well. Thanks for the insight, and I will be checking out any additional posts as well!

Pete from Orlando...
 
Don try reading the initial posts first before expressing your opinion, Thanks.

NetDoc asked if i was for or against DIR...thus i formed an opinion, and believe me when i say it IS an informed one. :)

 
.... the communistic side of diving. How else can some one that has never seen me tell me that fin A is a safer fin for me that fin B. Fin A may be a nice fin but different divers and dives require different fins. example: on the auotbon one may want a Porshe Boxtert or the likes of such, but on the back roads one would need a 4x4.

By definition DIR should allow a diver to change any and all gear configurations according to what the diver feels is right and not what some cave diver in north fla. (who has never even tasted salt water) has decided to be safe.
 
Upon scanning the various postings on DIR, I noticed one consideration missing from the discussion. I recently converted over to a more DIR-oriented mindset, not directly because of the safety considerations, but for the familiarization it encourages with your own gear.

The modular nature of gear configuration that DIR encourages goes hand-in-hand with the growth curve many of us experience as divers. New features can be added on to our overall configurations as they become necessary. If I had followed this concept during my first round of gear purchases, I would have saved myself a good bit of money and would not be in the process of selling off various extraneous pieces of equipment. Now that I am coming to the end of my second round of purchases, I feel much more confident that these various pieces of equipment will be with me for the rest of my diving career. Not to mention the fact that you have a certain sense of accomplishment after you go through the process of trying to rig your own harness with all the various nuances recommended on the various DIR sites (gue.com; wkpp.org; etc.).

It's definitely a style of diving that is much easier to adopt early in one's mental, physical and financial investment in diving. The actual data on which the system is based convinced me, for what that's worth. If you've read all the replies up to this point, you're probably interested enough to visit as many web sites as possible on the system and make up your own mind. That's how I did it and it suits my style of diving just fine.

-Seth
 
I am a newbie and I am glad I found out about DIR before I purchase my gear. I will never be totally DIR, just because I am not going to get into tech diving. I do plan on trying a BP and wings, as well as using a 5 ft hose and placing the sec. reg around my neck. I will still dive with people that are not DIR. not diving DIR is not diving wrong in my opinion. Now if I dive with someone that is unsafe I will not dive with them if they are DIR or not.

I do want to thank everyone. Just reading the boards and becoming knowledge about not only DIR but other areas of diving has been very helpful.

everyone have fun and be safe
 
Would like to add, it's nice to see such polite discussion regarding DIR instead of the the usual flame wars that seem to instantly break out on the Rodale's and techdiver lists as soon as the term DIR is even mentioned

Sam
 
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