dir questions

[lamont]

That was uncalled for. The guy dives a lot, maybe different than DIR, and perhaps one could learn from him rather than ridicule him.

He wanders in here and asks a bunch of questions that are answered better by a search query and starts it all off with an idiotic one like "Why does my bladder have to be black???"

He's not going to get a warm welcome.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

He wanders in here and asks a bunch of questions that are answered better by a search query and starts it all off with an idiotic one like "Why does my bladder have to be black???"

He's not going to get a warm welcome.

Nope ... and the responses he does get will only reinforce the misconceptions he already has.

Perhaps it would be better not to respond at all ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Derek S]

Bob brings up an important point, but so does Lamont.

Where is the fine line drawn? I agree that we should err on the side of "kindness" as Bob stated, but you have to admit that most of those questions do look quite dubious.

I think people get frustrated (especially those who truly give a damn about DIR and have taken GUE classes) when the same questions get asked when a simple search would suffice.

I would think any instructor worth their certificate, regardless of agency, equipment configuration or mindset, would advise against doubles in a wetsuit, or at the most rudimentary level, push diving a balanced rig. Obviously this isn't the case.....

 

[fishhunta]

He wanders in here and asks a bunch of questions that are answered better by a search query and starts it all off with an idiotic one like "Why does my bladder have to be black???"

He's not going to get a warm welcome.

I don't need a welcome from people like you, the people who answered my questions did a fine job..........


And even after being called an idiot and stupid, I try to clarify myself as uneducated and curious instead of firing back. My response to being called an idiot is to argue back and ridicule back, but I thought that this was a forum that I could get in trouble for childish things like name calling, so, I take the higher road and continue to clarify myself. I am done doing that now. If you still think I'm a troll, I don't care. Thank you to the few who answered my questions no matter how stupid they were. As for the rest of you, I now know people at my dive shop consider DIR to have some great ideas, but worst people.

 

[lamont]

Oh, what the hell...

Why does my bladder have to be black???

I believe mine is blue, actually. If you're asking why you can't use red bungee wings, the issue there is with the bungee wings, not the red color.

Why can't I dive a steel single?

You can. I have no idea where this misconception comes from.

What is wrong with my full foot fins?

DIR fins need to be stiff non-split fins that you can easily do frog kicks, helicopter kicks and back kicks with. The requirement is that you be able to do the kicks in the fins, not that the fins need to be any particular type -- although in practice jetfins and turtles have the best design for this kind of propulsion.

And you might be surprised at how much being able to back up improves your diving.

Why must I wear a drysuit with steel tanks?

With single steels it isn't a requirement. With double steels, a wing failure, and a wetsuit that compresses with depth you could wind up 20-35# or more negative and plastered on the bottom with nothing ditchable.

Why must I use trimix past 100ft??

Narcosis, gas breathing difficulty, CO2 build-up, and weight. GUE is really geared towards creating technical divers who are expected to be diving in caves or overheads where the risk of taking a CO2 hit needs to be eliminated. In clear warm water on NDL dives where you can always ascend directly to 80 fsw to clear your head out, this may seem like overkill.

 

[fishhunta]

Thanks..........

 

[lamont]

As for the rest of you, I now know people at my dive shop consider DIR to have some great ideas, but worst people.

Find some DIR divers in real life to talk to. The internet is very far removed from real life.

 

[fishhunta]

Find some DIR divers in real life to talk to. The internet is very far removed from real life.

I did talk to a nice fellow from JUE in Japan. Talking with him is what got me to inquire. He was cool and made sense. After he left, others in the shop were saying the things I asked about. I had to ask because the way people talked about the DIR crowd didn't mesh with his positive attitude.

 

[JeffG]

Bob brings up an important point, but so does Lamont.

Where is the fine line drawn? I agree that we should err on the side of "kindness" as Bob stated, but you have to admit that most of those questions do look quite dubious.

I think people get frustrated (especially those who truly give a damn about DIR and have taken GUE classes) when the same questions get asked when a simple search would suffice.

Where is the line drawn? Well, it would take very little research to "debunk" half of his questions. So, if he can't even put in a little bit of effort, Why should I (or anyone else)?

 

[Derek S]

Where is the line drawn? Well, it would take very little research to "debunk" half of his questions. So, if he can't even put in a little bit of effort, Why should I (or anyone else)?

Exactly my point. :14: