Did I just find a hens tooth or make a mistake? (Conshelf din adapter)
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84CJ7
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Ah cool thanks, I have the 3 lp 1 large hp version. Serial number is letters and numbers.
Other than the later 20’s having the extra lp port the site I read before said really late 14’s also got the extra port and actually had a picture of one. Makes me wonder if they weren’t sticking 20 bodies in them as they used the parts up.
I wish someone would redo that page with all the firsts and seconds listed with port counts and pictures.
As far as identifying that conshelf check the port count and sizes with the post above. That should narrow it to a xiv, 14 or 20/21 pretty easy and I think the 20/21 were just different second stages. Maybe gjc knows.
As far as value if it’s complete and not corroded I’d give you 150 for a conshelf din supreme right now, I suppose it’s possible an eBay bidding war might go farther, they don’t come up all that often so it’s hard to guess and sometimes the right people just aren’t looking for one at that time so it flops.
Other than the later 20’s having the extra lp port the site I read before said really late 14’s also got the extra port and actually had a picture of one. Makes me wonder if they weren’t sticking 20 bodies in them as they used the parts up.
I wish someone would redo that page with all the firsts and seconds listed with port counts and pictures.
As far as identifying that conshelf check the port count and sizes with the post above. That should narrow it to a xiv, 14 or 20/21 pretty easy and I think the 20/21 were just different second stages. Maybe gjc knows.
As far as value if it’s complete and not corroded I’d give you 150 for a conshelf din supreme right now, I suppose it’s possible an eBay bidding war might go farther, they don’t come up all that often so it’s hard to guess and sometimes the right people just aren’t looking for one at that time so it flops.
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84CJ7
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Ok which ones had that oddball 1/2 port, I remember reading about those too.
And funny thing, I just rummaged in my scuba tote of crap and discovered a conshelf 21 first that I didn’t even know I owned. I vaguely recall buying it cheap I think.
4 lp 7/16 hp, cool. I can use that body with a din adapter and supreme end parts to get the best of all worlds.
And funny thing, I just rummaged in my scuba tote of crap and discovered a conshelf 21 first that I didn’t even know I owned. I vaguely recall buying it cheap I think.
4 lp 7/16 hp, cool. I can use that body with a din adapter and supreme end parts to get the best of all worlds.
GJC
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Correction - Conshelf 14 has 4 LP ports
Version Year HP size HP # LP size LP #
VI 1965-1969 3/8 1 3/8 1
XI 1970-1971 3/8 1 3/8 2 metal yoke screw
XII 1972-1976 3/8 1 3/8 2 (3 late) plastic yoke screw, late had c clip on 1st stage
XII 1977 3/8 1 3/8 4
XIV 1977-1998 3/8 (7/16 p 98) 1 3/8 3
20 1983-1984 7/16 1 3/8 3 Satin first, plastic second
21 1988-1989 7/16 1 3/8 4
22 7/16 1 3/8, ½ 3?,1 new second stage, replaceable crown
SE -1986 7/16 1 ½ 3
SE2 1987-1991 7/16 1 3/8, ½ 3, 1
SE3 1995-1996 7/16 1 3/8 4
14 7/16 1 3/8 4 metal second
SEA 1991 7/16 2 3/8, ½ 3, 1 T first
30 5/16 1 ½ 4 T first
Sorry, the columns don't line up right
Version Year HP size HP # LP size LP #
VI 1965-1969 3/8 1 3/8 1
XI 1970-1971 3/8 1 3/8 2 metal yoke screw
XII 1972-1976 3/8 1 3/8 2 (3 late) plastic yoke screw, late had c clip on 1st stage
XII 1977 3/8 1 3/8 4
XIV 1977-1998 3/8 (7/16 p 98) 1 3/8 3
20 1983-1984 7/16 1 3/8 3 Satin first, plastic second
21 1988-1989 7/16 1 3/8 4
22 7/16 1 3/8, ½ 3?,1 new second stage, replaceable crown
SE -1986 7/16 1 ½ 3
SE2 1987-1991 7/16 1 3/8, ½ 3, 1
SE3 1995-1996 7/16 1 3/8 4
14 7/16 1 3/8 4 metal second
SEA 1991 7/16 2 3/8, ½ 3, 1 T first
30 5/16 1 ½ 4 T first
Sorry, the columns don't line up right
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84CJ7
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I’m holding in my hand a “14” with 3 lp and 1 7/16 hp serial cnnp0032
I’m thinking there were early and late “14” models like that site mentioned.
Thanks for the info.
I’m thinking there were early and late “14” models like that site mentioned.
Thanks for the info.
GJC
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Mine has four lp and one hp. One lp port is 1/2".
I attached some pictures, if what I have is what you want for $150, sounds reasonable to me.
No corrosion, this is from a salt free home.
I attached some pictures, if what I have is what you want for $150, sounds reasonable to me.
No corrosion, this is from a salt free home.
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84CJ7
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It'll work, Ill might just put the ends onto my 21 body rather than have that 1/2" lp port. It was sorta a fad that the primary reg would work better with a larger hose, mares did it with the earlier abyss (irritates the hell out of me as I have one) but as you can see they don't do it anymore because it just made a stiffer hose and no noticeable difference.
Even though the body isn't exactly what I want the fact that its one of those externally adjustable supreme kits is interesting to me.
Even though the body isn't exactly what I want the fact that its one of those externally adjustable supreme kits is interesting to me.
The Mares Abyss (MR22) continues to have a 1/2 inch LP port for the primary 2nd stage connection. Mainstream production of the MR22 1st stage ceased about a year or so ago (late 2019?), they are currently only producing the Navy version, but it too has the 1/2 inch LP port.
I have an adapter that lives on one and my other has a 7ft miflex hose that has 1/2 inch threading. If you hate your Abyss 1st stage, let me know if you want to get rid of it.
-Z
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