cold girl

[bcsean]

well, first thing, wear wicking materials. As soon as you get damp at all, and the moisture is on your skin, you're getting cold. If you're using a weezle, you need lots of loft to stay warm. If you like diving without tons of air in your suit, get a thinsulate undergarment. I know diving concepts makes them up to 400 weight which is damn warm. I'm consdering one right now. They also make a 100 and 200 weight thinsulate undergarment with stretch. You can get it to fit very well, but still have full mobility and stay warm.

 

[cowprintrabbit]

I do not know if it is possible to do this but I wouls try Hot Hand Packs wraped in a cloth, ziplock baggie and put in your dry suite. Just a thought

I'm not sure if those would work sealed in bags, they require oxygen as part of the heat-producing chemical reaction.

Check out the kind that stick to the bottom of your socks, though, I wear them between two pairs of socks playing in the snow and it keeps all of me warmer.

 

[R_Deluca]

I know diving concepts makes them up to 400 weight which is damn warm. I'm consdering one right now. They also make a 100 and 200 weight thinsulate undergarment with stretch. You can get it to fit very well, but still have full mobility and stay warm.

You will not regret buying the DC undies, they are by far the best I've ever used and yes I have tried the DUI, Weezle, and Bare Stuff.

 

[R_Deluca]

Oh, a VEGETARIAN!

You should have explained that. Little known fact - very few vegetarians dive. Even in warm tropical climates. The body processes meat and turns it into heat energy, and so far, while the vegetarian diet may or may not be healthy for you, the fact is it won't transfer into heat energy. The human body takes little protein bits called bisoflavones and burns them off into heat. These are completely lacking in other protein substitutes, such as peanut butter or tofu.

This theory is best explained in Dussault's "Carnivore vs. Herbivore" series of textbooks, which can be found in any third grade classroom in Sierra Leone. This is why most Inuit peoples eat meat exclusively, while most vegetarian cultures live along the earth's equator.

So - long story short... as long as you just keep eating veggies, you can layer up in 14 layers and a completely redundant drysuit, but you'll still shiver.

Ummmmmmm.....Steak!

 

[ScubaDadMiami]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the use of Argon in the dry suit. So I will be the one to mention it.

 

[DI_Guy]

Hi bubblemaker ( nice nicname )

I'm afraid I cannot help with the COLD situation as my dive buddies call me "the abberation in the matrix" as I never get cold when diving. I guess I am just a furnace. Even at 9 degrees C in early May, I was over-heated. Can you lend me some of your "cool" ? (lol)

Have a fun and safe dive....

 

[ScubaDadMiami]

Oh, a VEGETARIAN!

You should have explained that. Little known fact - very few vegetarians dive. Even in warm tropical climates. The body processes meat and turns it into heat energy, and so far, while the vegetarian diet may or may not be healthy for you, the fact is it won't transfer into heat energy. The human body takes little protein bits called bisoflavones and burns them off into heat. These are completely lacking in other protein substitutes, such as peanut butter or tofu.

This theory is best explained in Dussault's "Carnivore vs. Herbivore" series of textbooks, which can be found in any third grade classroom in Sierra Leone. This is why most Inuit peoples eat meat exclusively, while most vegetarian cultures live along the earth's equator.

So - long story short... as long as you just keep eating veggies, you can layer up in 14 layers and a completely redundant drysuit, but you'll still shiver.

I have no idea from where you are getting your information. However, there is a significant vegetarian and vegan population in the diving community relative to percentage of persons in general. This is especially so in the technical diving community. This is because these divers take their diving as seriously as a professional athlete and realize that peak performance could save their lives in deep, technical dives that require this top performance.

I have been a vegetarian, trying to become vegan, for many years. I just can't seem to get off of the dairy stuff, which is my own personal weakness in character. I wish I could kick the stuff to make the final transition.

Most people think I am at least five to seven years younger than my actual age. As I have become more strict in my diet and engaged in exercise and other beneficial activities, my fitness (verified by blood results and scientific measurements) has increased. I engage in technical diving using multiple gases and extended decompression on a regular basis.

I use helium based mixes for breathting and in my dry suit regularly. I mention this because this tends to make a diver much colder than using air. I do not have a problem with the cold at all. However, I will admit that I have not been diving much in water temperature below the low 50s in some time. After all, I live in Florida and don't have much chance to dive where the water gets extremely cold.

I would more likely think that this person's problem with the cold has to do with other factors that have to do with physical characteristics of her body. That meat-eating propaganda is old thinking that does not, if you will pardon the pun, hold water.

 

[Boogie711]

I have no idea from where you are getting your information. However, there is a significant vegetarian and vegan population in the diving community relative to percentage of persons in general. This is especially so in the technical diving community. This is because these divers take their diving as seriously as a professional athlete and realize that peak performance could save their lives in deep, technical dives that require this top performance.

I have been a vegetarian, trying to become vegan, for many years. I just can't seem to get off of the dairy stuff, which is my own personal weakness in character. I wish I could kick the stuff to make the final transition.

Most people think I am at least five to seven years younger than my actual age. As I have become more strict in my diet and engaged in exercise and other beneficial activities, my fitness (verified by blood results and scientific measurements) has increased. I engage in technical diving using multiple gases and extended decompression on a regular basis.

I use helium based mixes for breathting and in my dry suit regularly. I mention this because this tends to make a diver much colder than using air. I do not have a problem with the cold at all. However, I will admit that I have not been diving much in water temperature below the low 50s in some time. After all, I live in Florida and don't have much chance to dive where the water gets extremely cold.

I would more likely think that this person's problem with the cold has to do with other factors that have to do with physical characteristics of her body. That meat-eating propaganda is old thinking that does not, if you will pardon the pun, hold water.

Truly spoken like someone who dives...

... IN MIAMI!

Tell you what - read the post again real close and tell me what you think.

 

[ScubaDadMiami]

Truly spoken like someone who dives...

... IN MIAMI!

Tell you what - read the post again real close and tell me what you think.

very few vegetarians dive.

Brings me back to my original point. The higher up the scale into technical diving one goes, the proportion of vegetarians and vegans increases. True, overall, there are way less vegetarians/vegans in the general population overall. My point is only that there are more fitness oriented technical divers that also happen to follow this lifestyle than when compared to the general diving population. Perhaps it is because they know a thing or two.

. . .[T]he vegetarian diet . . . won't transfer into heat energy.

If that were the case, all vegetarians/vegans would be dead. The body produces heat in a natural part of physiology. Diet has an influence in the efficiency perhaps, but that can be adjusted in many forms that are healthy rather than resorting to meat-eating.

The human body takes little protein bits called bisoflavones and burns them off into heat. These are completely lacking in other protein substitutes, such as peanut butter or tofu.

I will be the first person to say that I don't know enough about this to comment other than to say that to live is to produce heat. Somehow, vegetarians/vegans do so.

This is why most Inuit peoples eat meat exclusively, while most vegetarian cultures live along the earth's equator.

Perhaps it is because there is lush vegetation growing above ground in one climate and not the other.

So - long story short... as long as you just keep eating veggies, you can layer up in 14 layers and a completely redundant drysuit, but you'll still shiver.

This is where I have the disagreement.

By the way, I may live in Florida now, but I was certified in Central New York State in December, in the snow, in a lake that was not frozen only because the water moves too swiftly. Coincidentally, those series of dives were conducted in a wet suit and not done dry. Thereafter, I dove in New Jersey and California before relocating here. I also was a lifeguard in New Jersey for years, where I did not wear any thermal protection, in water that probably averaged about 68 or so in the Summertime.

I am not trying to prove my manliness or anything. I am not a large, heat producing type of guy as I am about 5'9" and weigh 175 pounds.

These things being the case, I think I am qualified to at least state that I am not unfamiliar with being a vegetarian and diving in colder environments. It is quite possible to be animal product free and still dive warm (or at least not always cold).

No offense meant and I hope none is taken.

 

[Halthron]

Oh, a VEGETARIAN!

...

So - long story short... as long as you just keep eating veggies, you can layer up in 14 layers and a completely redundant drysuit, but you'll still shiver.

Thanks for the morning humor!