Cave Fills on LP tanks

[kensuf]

My garage is still standing.

I've been in the Caribbean and been handed steel CCR bottles that were filled to 3500 psi.

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This site is interesting and informative. It shows the rated pressures for all Faber steel cylinders If you pay attention you will notice cylinders matching the same specifications as the 184 BAR LP steel cylinders (with up to 10%) in the US have ratings of up to 232 BAR in other countries. Of course, one may argue they're going to the added expense of manufacturing two completely different cylinders rather than just manufacturing one cylinder and selling it in two different locations with two different ratings based on the local laws of that country.

My read is that several cylinders that are rated for only 2640 here in the states are rated for 3400 psi elsewhere.

 

[ajduplessis]

I really dont care for your “read” on how other countries deal with their regulations. You either follow them, or violate them. There is no “my read” of things...

 

[PfcAJ]

I really dont care for your “read” on how other countries deal with their regulations. You either follow them, or violate them. There is no “my read” of things...

And in this case violating them doesn’t have any effects.

 

[ajduplessis]

Leading by example I see

 

[LiteHedded]

ok dad

 

[JBFG]

I really dont care for your “read” on how other countries deal with their regulations. You either follow them, or violate them. There is no “my read” of things...

Would you like me to fix or point out the grammar rules you have violated in your post?

 

[kotik]

Cave divers, the debate can end, the bottom line is written: your protestations of hundreds of thousands of fills performed without incident are distractions, a feeble attempt to divert attention from the real issue. As has now been shown inarguably, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF DOT REGULATIONS which don’t apply here? As has been clearly without any supporting evidence stated by someone with absolutely no experience, the practice is certain death! Also there are uncertified divers which are somehow your fault.

Further diving in the so-called “Cave Country” should cease: you are a dangerous culture of sleepy-heads. If you feel you absolutely must dive, the right thing to do is transition to open water only, where it is universally agreed that all instructors are superb, protocols are perfect, perfectly defined, and perfectly followed by all, and there are no incidents of any kind ever.

This is the most critical problem in the diving world. I am right and anyone that disagrees is a criminal and probably has a bad haircut.

 

[rjack321]

@kotik

 

[2airishuman]

It shows the rated pressures for all Faber steel cylinders If you pay attention you will notice cylinders matching the same specifications as the 184 BAR LP steel cylinders (with up to 10%) in the US have ratings of up to 232 BAR in other countries. Of course, one may argue they're going to the added expense of manufacturing two completely different cylinders rather than just manufacturing one cylinder and selling it in two different locations with two different ratings based on the local laws of that country.

My read is that several cylinders that are rated for only 2640 here in the states are rated for 3400 psi elsewhere.

They may very well be made of different steels using an otherwise identical manufacturing process in the same facility. They also may be made of nominally identical steel but subject to more careful testing regarding the composition and properties of the steel and the finished cylinders.

Before you make fun of the "strokes" who are posting, recall that the original premise of the thread was a question from a diver who has not and does not intend to dive in caves.

 

[Scuba J7]

They may very well be made of different steels using an otherwise identical manufacturing process in the same facility. They also may be made of nominally identical steel but subject to more careful testing regarding the composition and properties of the steel and the finished cylinders.

Before you make fun of the "strokes" who are posting, recall that the original premise of the thread was a question from a diver who has not and does not intend to dive in caves.

I was told it has to do with regulations. In the US a high pressure vessel can only have a working pressure that is ¼ of the burst pressure. In the EU it's something like ⅓. Don't quote me on that, I don't remember where I got that info and did not recently research it.