BP/W DM Course??

[ams511]

Please google before you make incorrect statements:
Recreational Diver Level 1 - Nitrox diver | Global Underwater Explorers

And it was joke anyway. Hence the winky smiley!

In all fairness to fnfalman, how many recreational divers does GUE train per year as opposed to Naui, Padi, or SDI? Of their three GUE partners in the USA, I only see one, Extreme Exposure, advertise the course.

 

[fnfalman]

Please google before you make incorrect statements:
Recreational Diver Level 1 - Nitrox diver | Global Underwater Explorers

Yes, I know about recreational cert from GUE. It's still "GUE". Look at the recommended equipment list.

And it was joke anyway. Hence the winky smiley!

My bad.

 

[RJP]

Please send that statement to a GUE instructor

There's a subtle difference between "only teaching one kit out of many" and "teaching that there only is one kit... not many."

:d

 

[gekodivebali]

Yes and there is more to a DM course than equipment exchange.
A DM demoing to an Open Water student in Confined Water how to switch regs with a long hose when said student has a short hose makes no sense. The whole point of demonstrating is learning through mimicry... This is lost with using different rigs!
I would only use long hose backplate backmount or sidemount in such a scenario in order for me to end up with the same gear as my student.
Showing students and divers in general different gear configuration outside the first demonstrations makes sense.

 

[DevonDiver]

Yes and there is more to a DM course than equipment exchange.
A DM demoing to an Open Water student in Confined Water how to switch regs with a long hose when said student has a short hose makes no sense. The whole point of demonstrating is learning through mimicry... This is lost with using different rigs!

Here's an idea...

DM breathes from his short-hose. Long-hose is tucked away neatly behind (or even just 'gripped' under the armpit) and clipped off as per normal AAS. DM demonstrates 'normal' air-share protocol.

Was that so hard?

 

[Mr Carcharodon]

Remove and replace a BP/W mid water -- why that is impossible

Oh wait maybe not
Equipment removal midwater - Discovery Divers Tokyo - YouTube

 

[Mike.D]

Here's an idea...

DM breathes from his short-hose. Long-hose is tucked away neatly behind (or even just 'gripped' under the armpit) and clipped off as per normal AAS. DM demonstrates 'normal' air-share protocol.

Was that so hard?

Great idea and a nice compromise.

 

[Ste Wart]

Remove and replace a BP/W mid water -- why that is impossible

Oh wait maybe not
Equipment removal midwater - Discovery Divers Tokyo - YouTube

Pretty slick. But lets see him do that in a drysuit!

 

[RJP]

The whole point of demonstrating is learning through mimicry... This is lost with using different rigs!

See, this is the problem I referenced above. May sound like semantics but "Mimicry" is not "learning." The very definition of mimicry is "a superficial resemblance." Learning involved understanding, not just repeating actions by rote.

What a student should learn is "what to do" in an air share situation... not just "what motions to perform." If the latter was all that was done that would literally end with a student "just going through the motions."

Not saying the first time a skill is demo'd it should be done in something very different than the student is using. Just suggesting you're selling yourself - and your students - short if you are merely getting them to mimic actions. If that was all that was necessary we could teach apes to dive.

 

[gekodivebali]

Learning involved understanding, not just repeating actions by rote.

What a student should learn is "what to do" in an air share situation... not just "what motions to perform." If the latter was all that was done that would literally end with a student "just going through the motions."

So you're saying muscle memory has no use in diving?

---------- Post added May 10th, 2013 at 06:47 PM ----------

Here's an idea...

DM breathes from his short-hose. Long-hose is tucked away neatly behind (or even just 'gripped' under the armpit) and clipped off as per normal AAS. DM demonstrates 'normal' air-share protocol.

Was that so hard?

Or u could just use the same equipment and Keep It Simple...