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I bought an Atomic T2X and paid a lot of money for it so it has to be the best reg on the market. Before that I had a SP S555 and that was the best and before that I had a SP G250 and again that was the best. So if anyone wants to know what is the best reg on the market just buy what I buy.
 
Hey Grump,

Really...? Of course your math will validate your point. Typical political propaganda... Lets fudge the numbers to make our point. If I said I went diving last weekend, how many times did I actually dive? Well I could have dove 1 time last weekend... So by your math those numbers would be much different. Lets say a minimum of 29 to a max of 108= (thats an average of 3 dives per day everytime you go out) an average of 69 dives per year not 100-140... You smell like "Tea Party" lmao... Your opinion on revenue is hillarious. I am not concerned with what that diver does with his money. If they listen to people like you, then what they spend wouldnt even be worth my time anyways....

My point on weekend warriors being your best potential customers hold true at you numbers or mine. They are still dive enthusiast who are willing and able to spend money on the sport month in and month out rather than once a year.

If my opinion on revenue is irrelevant, then why don't you post the names of the shops / boats you work on as instructor / DM? I am betting they would not share your opinion.
 
My point on weekend warriors being your best potential customers hold true at you numbers or mine. They are still dive enthusiast who are willing and able to spend money on the sport month in and month out rather than once a year.

If my opinion on revenue is irrelevant, then why don't you post the names of the shops / boats you work on as instructor / DM? I am betting they would not share your opinion.

What revenue...? Tanks fills. As you have viewed my profile you know or have read that I have stated I am an intructor and already acknowledged that. The DM? add on just was just attempt to demote my opinion or views, why then would I give out my personal info so guys like you can slander me behind my back. Just because you dont like what I think. I have seen, first hand the effect of these actions in regards to others who have made such mistakes. I dont compete with dive shops, my scuba dive course runs 995.00. I dont have to waste time with nickel and dime stuff. I do have a commericial office and classroom. Gear sales are restricted to students and appt only. My business model is very different then the typical LDS. I have accounts with brand name manufacturers. I am listed as a training facility. You may see with those facts why my opinion is different, then again I doubt it.
 
Well maybe up to 40%, a very good reg service guy mentioned this 10 years ago that A titanium was not good for something and I never see anyone use them for trimix or even deco. I am curios as these regs have been around a decade now. Does anyone know if there safe for diving deep dives and different gasses and high % O2 mixes.
 
So why would a passport diver spend more than s/he needs to?

A new diver lacks the necessary experience to judge. Economy brands may be as good, but they might not be. A brand name offers the promise of quality. This might not be the reality, but as a new diver, I had a lot of anxiety about my life-sustaining equipment for me and my 11 yo son.

For our regs I chose to buy what I perceived to be a reputable brand name, knowing that I was very likely paying more than I had to, paying in part for the name. But I viewed it as an investment in my new sport. So I bought Oceanic EOS for us. These regs should last us a very long time. And compared to the rental regs- a huge difference even in our < 70 ft diving. I have no complaints, and the price difference doesn't mean much compared to cost of boat diving in general.

For my BCD I could have just rented on vacation, but I found all rentals I tried to be ill-fitting and uncomfortable. So I shelled out too much money for my own BCD with enough capacity for cold-water diving as well. (I live in Alberta, Canada) It's bulky to travel with, but super comfy. That comfort comes with a ridiculous +10# buoyancy. I feel the LDS did me a disservice not clearly explaining that to me. However, now that I know, I still haven't found an equally comfy BCD that I'd be willing to switch to. For the boy, we rent; he's growing too fast. Now that boy #2 is diving age, I may buy older kid a BCD that little one can grow into. I don't intend to spend a fortune here.

So it's VERY interesting to me that an experienced diver says on this thread that nearly any reg will do, but not the same of BCDs. I had made the opposite assumption.

The only thing I regret buying is a wireless wristwatch computer. Main reason: I wanted to be able to monitor boy's air remotely. But the thing has to be so close to his transmitter it's easier to just grab his SPG to check. Plus, if it ever goes on the blink, I'm in trouble without an independent SPG. It's not a decision I'd repeat. Plus the damn thing is black and I keep misplacing it. It cost far too much for the supposed convenience factor.

I'm sure that some LDS prey on nervousness of new divers and sell upscale equipment as a promise of peace of mind to new divers.

I'm sure that many on the board don't care what my opinion is, since I'm barely wet, a lowly and non-experienced passport diver, but it's precisely my demographic that is at the greatest disadvantage at judging gear quality. From my previous experience as a powder hound, I used to find it hilarious when I saw tourists on the bunny hill in the latest equipment, that they couldn't possibly take advantage of. I resented it because I couldn't afford it, and that made me scornful of them. But the fact was that better equipment DID make the sport easier for them, the skills easier to acquire, and the whole experience more enjoyable. Sure, I could handle more extreme challenges with more basic equipment, I didn't NEED the newest and best, but that didn't mean that they were wrong to get it. If they rented crap equipment and had a bad experience they might not stick with the sport.

So, that was my outlook when I bought equipment that exceeded my requirements. I could afford it, and I didn't want anything to interfere with my enjoyment. I'm sure that some of the more experienced divers with their 12 year old equipment, or the DMs with their funky modified gear are looking at me the same way as I looked at the bunny hill tourists, but you know what? I don't care. It's good stuff, my son likes having cool-looking gear, and that means we both enjoy diving that much more. I hope that some day our experience level matches our equipment's capabilities.
 
Titanium regs are not recommended for mixtures above 40%. Titanium and high oxygen contents are not a good combination. Once you get inot the higher partial pressures with O2 the risk of fire increases in general. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA398407&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

This study by NASA is quite interesting, A bit dry at the beginning but the summary is very cool. In short if you were to have a fire due to high O2 content and it was enough to ignite the reg you would not be able to put it out easily. As long as there was O2 in contact with the metal it would burn. And I think I heard somewhere that water has O2 in it :shocked2:. So no mfg I am aware of recommends Ti regs with mixes above 40%. I have not heard of anyone using Ti regs for tech diving but I guess they could. Since a bottom mix of say 18/54 or lower O2 would not be a fire risk. But at $1000 for the reg when a $250 -275 reg will do very well (like the HOG D-1) why would you? That 750 saved could buy a lot of tri-mix!

But even at that a Ti reg is expensive for anyone at $1000- $1200 or more and that's what they run. For now. Although there is a $600 Ti reg coming in a month or so from Edge.

I also work in metal fabrication and run a water jet. One of the things we cut with it is titanium and laminated titanium. The water jet keeps the heat down so that we don't get fires but even at that we like to keep it submerged when starting the cut to reduce the risk even further. It is really quite interesting to see. It looks like a sparkler when cutting with water that has a garnet abrasive mixed it. I always get a little nervous doing it.
 
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"best" is, and always will be, at best, subjective (and applied to the current owned item, until something else catches one's eye) . :popcorn:

.....and the strength at which we defend it is proportional to the price we payed for it.
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To Ditherfish. If you have two sons of diving age that are still growing you are wise to not buy them their own traditional BC's. It would be a waste of money. But if you went with BC's that could grow with them you'd buy once and only have to spend a couple dollars later on to replace components. If you went with a backplate and wing for them they would be able to use them for years and as the grew you'd just have to adjust the webbing. You could put a pad on the backplate even though it is not necessary. I use mine with just a t shirt. Even my double 72's are not a big deal and very comfy in the water. Or if you wanted something a little different the Zeagle Express Tech. Same principle but soft backpack. Infinitely adjustable, inexpensive -260 or so retail, and like the BPW for your boys it meets rule #6 specs beautifully (rule number 6 - always look cool!). I don't know what your rental costs are but how long would a $250(ET)-$375(BPW) BC take to pay for itself? Considering again that either will last a 12 yr old long enough for him to get out of high school, go get his 4 year degree, and get a job where you no longer pay for anything for him.
 
All of the gear is the same made by the same people. I don't care if it is Cressi, TUSA, Oceanic, Scuba Pro, Atomic, or Aqua Lung. You will not notice a difference in their gear for the most part.
 
Thanks jim that is what I recall, just was not sure if up to 40%.

I have taken my old SP295 below 200' and it is just fine, I do like my 600's better and do dive them most deeper dives with a longer bottom time.

My SP 109 and other old regs work as well, I have some other cheaper regs that have worked fine as well. everyone will like what they buy and might not try another till there's is lost.

shftrdog those people must be tired if they make all the gear.
 

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