Best CCR in 2025-2030 Rebreather Markets

[mr_v]

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Wooooweeeeewwooooo

Oh, she was the absolute hottest on the show.

 

[Mobulai]

Oh, she was the absolute hottest on the show.

Goddamit we need heart emojis!!
We need a Tardis sub forum as well!!

Wait, do you mean Rose or the Tardis, or their ultimate form.. bad wolf?

 

[mr_v]

Goddamit we need heart emojis!!
We need a Tardis sub forum as well!!

Wait, do you mean Rose or the Tardis, or their ultimate form.. bad wolf?

Rose Tyler. I always thought she was the best Dr. companion. She definitely had that 90s sheek about her. Although, I do like the woman Dr., too.

Anyway, to you, my British friends.... You make some good TV. Love BBC-produced stuff.

And I would love to officially dedicate this thread to Dr. Who, Rose, or whatever else BUT the original topic.

 

[Sascha314]

Well ... you got information and also WHY people prefer this, so giving a reason.

You are just stating this information is important, but keep in hiding your intentions. If you were to provide something, give something back, maybe you will get better answers.

Anyway your best source of information should be the big fairs where usually products will be anounced. If a company does not want to share this info yet, its highly unlikely insiders will tell a random stranger in the internet. Thats especially true for someone writing your answers...

Besides: if I were to plan going the CCR route now, I would chose from an existing model, where DATA of its performance is available. So even if there were plans that a new model will launch in 2030, I personally would not consider it before say 2035.

 

[Wibble]

Guys, many are here trying too hard to discuss the benefits of going with CCR offered by smaller team of 1-2 living people.

Again, knowing what big companies will offer CCR in 2025-2030 is a valuable data to everyone.

It doesn't matter if some of you think small is better than big, or big is never better than small, your opinion is irrelevant to the question of this thread.

We still need to know which big companies will offer CCR. That's by itself is important.

I am extremely disappointed with your response. Posters here have put in some considerable effort to explain this subject to you and you have completely ignored it.

The size of the parent company is utterly irrelevant.

There are no large companies in this market. None.

As explained, the market is very small due to the very low demand. The only customers are a few special forces who need ‘stealth’; a very few commercial divers who have a need to not have an umbilical cord (their normal technique); and recreational scuba divers who dive deep and long and need to work around gas logistics.

Almost certainly special forces would use ‘standard’ recreational rebreathers rather than specialist mil-spec units (=$$$$$$$).

 

[Mas.]

If a company does not want to share this info yet, its highly unlikely insiders will tell a random stranger in the internet. Thats especially true for someone writing your answers...

Besides: if I were to plan going the CCR route now, I would chose from an existing model, where DATA of its performance is available. So even if there were plans that a new model will launch in 2030, I personally would not consider it before say 2035.

If Scubapro already announced their plans to aquire AP or JJ and will offer their CCR, i wouldn't know this news. That's why I was asking a simple question if anyone here know any company who announced they will offer CCR anytime soon.

With regards to your choice of existing model, thanks for sharing your choices but it's irrelevant to the question of what big companies are offering CCR.

 

[Sascha314]

With all due respect, but I think you and your ideas are irrelevant as well then.

You did not understand a single answer, maybe you even did not try to retrieve data out of it.

 

[Mas.]

I am extremely disappointed with your response. Posters here have put in some considerable effort to explain this subject to you and you have completely ignored it.

The size of the parent company is utterly irrelevant.

There are no large companies in this market. None.

As explained, the market is very small due to the very low demand. The only customers are a few special forces who need ‘stealth’; a very few commercial divers who have a need to not have an umbilical cord (their normal technique); and recreational scuba divers who dive deep and long and need to work around gas logistics.

Almost certainly special forces would use ‘standard’ recreational rebreathers rather than specialist mil-spec units (=$$$$$$$).

Sorry to disappoint you and thanks for all your time and effort.

But why are not you disappointed of all the other 98% of responses who chose to ignore answering the simple question of which big companies offering CCR? And chose to debate the importance of this data, questioning it's value, or debating Big vs. Small without answering the actual simple question.

 

[DiveLikeAMuppet]

If Scubapro already announced their plans to aquire AP or JJ and will offer their CCR, i wouldn't know this news. That's why I was asking a simple question if anyone here know any company who announced they will offer CCR anytime soon.

With regards to your choice of existing model, thanks for sharing your choices but it's irrelevant to the question of what big companies are offering CCR.

It takes perhaps 4-5 years to bring a new CCR to the market - so the probability of someone big bringing a new unit is the same as humans landing on Mars: 0. Unless you start seeing buzz on dive shows this year, no major new units. It takes time to build instructor and service base and get through CE. All units spend few years as prototypes between friends & family.

Probability of a large company acquiring a small CCR manufacturer? Zero. The money is not there and you make yourself a large litigation target. It’s not worth for US lawyers to go after JJ. Scubapro on the other hand…

Probability of a military manufacturer selling civilian units? Zero. The economics and needs don’t make any sense.

You are asking the wrong question.

 

[Mobulai]

i wouldn't know this news. That's why I was asking a simple question if anyone here know any company who announced they will offer CCR anytime soon.

That’s called insider information, disclosure in the wrong space generally leads to legal actions