Best CCR in 2025-2030 Rebreather Markets

[Mas.]

Guys, many are here trying too hard to discuss the benefits of going with CCR offered by smaller team of 1-2 living people.

Again, knowing what big companies will offer CCR in 2025-2030 is a valuable data to everyone.

It doesn't matter if some of you think small is better than big, or big is never better than small, your opinion is irrelevant to the question of this thread.

We still need to know which big companies will offer CCR. That's by itself is important.

 

[Mobulai]

Guys, many are here trying too hard to discuss the benefits of going with CCR offered by smaller team of 1-2 living people.

Again, knowing what big companies will offer CCR in 2025-2030 is a valuable data to everyone.

It doesn't matter if some of you think small is better than big, or big is never better than small, your opinion is irrelevant to the question of this thread.

We still need to know which big companies will offer CCR. That's by itself is important.

Why is it important (that’s our question)?

When the previous trends prove it’s sparks the least interest for civilian users, and none of the big corp products have been adopted by statistically significant user bases (they mostly performed worse not better)

Echoing others before me: finding the right unit to be an instructor on would require looking into what the demographics seek; and the kind of diving they do of course

 

[Mas.]

Why is it important (that’s our question)?

When the previous trends prove it’s sparks the least interest for civilian users, and none of the big corp products have been adopted by statistically significant user bases (they mostly performed worse not better)

Echoing others before me: finding the right unit to be an instructor on would require looking into what the demographics seek; and the kind of diving they do of course

Any knowledge about the CCR ecosystem is important. Including the size of companies offering these units. It's just another important peice of data that can inform everyone.

 

[Mas.]

Thanks to everyone who contributed but let's go back to our topic please.

Without telling us that big companies are not better, do you know any CCR manufactured by big companies and will be available in 2025-2030 rebreather markets for technical/ professional divers?

Everyone agreed here only about one unit so far, the rEvo III.

rEvo iii match the criteria of the question becuase it is made in Belgium, and is small company with a parent that is big enough for us. Currently offered by Head Sport GmbH. American-Austrian company of Mares, SSI, Liveaboard.com, and their original Head brand of winter sports, employs 2,500 people and reports sales of more than $700 million.

Other than rEvo III, does anyone know of any other CCR models currently available from companies large enough in size, employ more than 1,000-1,500 people and report sales of more than $200-300 million?

Are you aware of any CCR model offered by Scubapro of Johnson Outdoors. Which also match the criteria of the question. It is Medium-size family business with operations in 24 locations worldwide, employs 1,400 people and reports sales of more than $315 million?

If anyone think this piece of data about which big company will offer CCR is not important, it is ok, still doesn't hurt to know. Please don't fight knowledge sharing.

Thanks to everyone.

 

[Chris-Wood]

If you haven't listened to a word of what's been said in this thread then I pity the instructor that trains you, if you find this mythical mass produced rebreather.

 

[lostsheep]

You’ve gotten your answer, you’re just not listening.

Stop feeding the troll.

Edit: I nominate this thread for the thumbs down forum

 

[Mobulai]

Any knowledge about the CCR ecosystem is important. Including the size of companies offering these units. It's just another important peice of data that can inform everyone.

Please don’t take this as me being condescending; I think it might be better if you first learn about the basics of how CCRs work and the physiology and technology behind/within it; and the various sub types; before looking into the “business case”, this is a diving not a financial planning forum

This informs the choice of a unit for civilians and commercial/military users alike; coming from a big or a small company

As for the “business case”:
An instructor needs students to come uo to them and say “teach me”, not sure how a non civilian unit is gonna be requested by a student for a class given they can’t buy it as a private person

Beyond the ones already mentioned, I don’t know of any rebreather offering by a big company that’s not a military/commercial unit (or a discontinued rec unit)

And for the last time:
Revo is a small company; just it’s owners are a big company and not a private person
Just like all the other big names in the rebreather world

Edit: I hope I’m not just training an AI

 

[rjack321]

Any knowledge about the CCR ecosystem is important. Including the size of companies offering these units. It's just another important peice of data that can inform everyone.

You'd be better off asking what units are taught where. Because you can aren't going to find anyone to teach you something like a T-reb anywhere in North America, nor can you find someone to teach you a Fathom in the UK. Although you could fly people in, that is increasing problematic work-permit wise.

Nevermind you have no clue what you are asking and refuse to listen anyway. I'm out

 

[broncobowsher]

Thanks to everyone who contributed but let's go back to our topic please.

Without telling us that big companies are not better, do you know any CCR manufactured by big companies and will be available in 2025-2030 rebreather markets for technical/ professional divers?

I can tell you what you want to know. But I will not tell you until 2030.
I'm not allowed to distort the future by exposing it until after it happens. It will lead to the collapse of the universe.

 

[Mobulai]

I can tell you what you want to know. But I will not tell you until 2030.
I'm not allowed to distort the future by exposing it until after it happens. It will lead to the collapse of the universe.

Wooooweeeeewwooooo